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Posted on Oct 22, 2014
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SSG Audwin Scott
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To be quite honest, we knew that gays and lesbians were in the military long before the don't ask don't tell rule applied. If I was still in service I would rather they be upfront and not have to hide who they are. This way I can deal with them a whole lot better knowing then finding out in a way that normally doesn't go well.
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
SSG Michael Hartsfield
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SSG Audwin Scott  I agree. We already knew (or had a strong suspicion) of who was gay or lesbian in the unit I was assigned.  The only that changed was now we knew for certain.  It didn't change our opinion of them and the ones that were solid Soldiers to begin with were still solid Soldiers.  They just seem a lot less burdened than before.
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SSG Jonathan Edwards
SSG Jonathan Edwards
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I would like folks on this thread to look up SGT Don Walters.... Walters was a soldier of mine while stationed in Hawaii at 25th ID (L). He didn't hide and he did't flout either. Who would know that years later he would die in combat in Iraq during the ambush that saw the Iraqi Irregulars snatch PVT Jessica Lynch. 
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SPC Geoffrey Jenkins
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Transgenders should never be able to serve in the military.It would give the US Military Veterans a slap in the face.This is not France or Europe where the gay's and others have a voice.This a social issue and the military has no interest in those affairs.We are in the business of protecting our country and the citizens.That's the way I felt when I served and still do to this day!
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis
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So you can't draw the line anywhere? That person is so fit you would trust him oh I mean her with your life. I hear they are going to down grade Pedifiles. Saying they are born that way. As well as people who commit murder. It was inevitable they are born that way. So we are downsizing the military but making room for transvestites. don't call them transgender. They can change their clothes, wear a wig and makeup. But they will always be the way they were born.
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PO1 Jackson Plant
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Transgender is not homosexual so the change in policy does not fix that issue. A premise were missing is serving is that a service not a right. Great hardworking loyal people are kicked out daily for not being able to serve anymore. I hear fair being used, is it fair a person is 1% over body fat or can't run as fast as others gets forced out? No but falls under what's needed for the job. Diabetics, epileptics, AIDS, back and knee problems all can disqualify us from serving, yet a still classified mental issue we want to now say feel free to come in and we will treat you? To compare this with race is disejinous at best. It was 30 years ago we laughed at cpl Klinger on MASH trying to get out with a section 8 because it was a mental illness and the last I heard it still is considered that. I'm not downplaying their patriotism or bravery, however just because rules can change to allow everyone to be able to serve should we allow everyone to serve? Just my thoughts.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
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Thanx for that, I think??
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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PO2 Mark Saffell
PO2 Mark Saffell
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OK This may seem harsh so Let me say Im sorry if it does ahead of time. Im just not sure how I feel about this. One thing is for sure. The Tax Payer should not be paying this. I dont believe its the governments place to pay for these surgeries. If they do then how can they say no to women getting elective surgeries? But back to my gut feelings. I can only speek for the Navy... But imagine living 3 months on a Sub underwater in an area as close as they are. I have learned it doesnt take much to upset a birthing compartment. Im just not sure how accepted a person will be and what it will do for a crew...Maybe Im wrong but I just dont think its a good idea for the Navy 
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Maj Mike Sciales
Maj Mike Sciales
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Good. Equality is just that.  Forget the "shower" concerns.  As long as the troop can perform the mission I have no interests in how they dress or see themselves.
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SPC George Rudenko
SPC George Rudenko
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I don't care gay, straight, transgender, space alien... if you are in the fight...  I want you on my team.
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SFC Rollie Hubbard
SFC Rollie Hubbard
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I think I am so glad I retired 24 years ago, the military of today has gone so far down hill that if I was a young man I would stay away so far it ain't funny I am so disappointed in the military leaders civ/military leaders it makes me wonder what the hell happened and why it went so damn wrong.
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SSG Fire Support Specialist
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One major problem with transgendered people serving is if they decide to transition while serving that person would be gone constantly for on appointments and would be non deployable for an extended amount of time if they are allowed in but not allowed to transition it could lead to severe depression and possible suicide so I think it would be a mistake for that reason.
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I understand that the scientific/social definition of these things is still in flux, but what is clear is that there is no concrete understanding of why and how at present. Sexual identity is different from this, and it's fairly concrete.
This, on the other hand, usually manifests in tandem with other mental health issues. A friend's son was turned away from the Navy because of a dermatologist-cleared instance of acne, which harbors far fewer considerations as far as fitness for duty.
Who has their gender identity issues all worked out at the average age of enlistment, and should the military be in a position where it has to patiently indulge an enlistee who is sorting their way through all of this?
I say, pointing at Bradley Manning, that this is a resounding "no." People can take off their social engineering hats now and look at this objectively - we need to be able to draw the line between wanting to accept people who may or may not want to transition or whatever the language is, and having that taint someone's fitness for service. This is not ignorance - read the psychiatric research. We're trying to lower suicide rates, and yet the transgendered have a higher than normal suicide rate. Pushing this on the service is ignorance, it's precipitous, it's foolish, and we should be, with regards to our fighting force, not in the business of borrowing trouble.
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I don't personally have anything against it, but do believe it causes a logistical nightmare. Where do you billet them? What restrooms/showers do they use? What PT test do they take? I think these are just some of the things the Military needs to figure out before I believe they can allow them to openly serve.
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I have served with one of the Army best Soldiers, the reason I say that he is one of the best that I would go in to a fight with him without any doubt. Former Marine, he is a great Soldier and a friend. Meet SGT Ortega:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transgender-in-the-military-a-pentagon-in-transition-weighs-its-policy/2015/04/09/ee0ca39e-cf0d-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html
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