Posted on Jan 26, 2015
When, Not If, Will We See Open Transgender Military Service?
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On November 23, 2014, the Palm Center released a statement entitled "Military Services Have Failed To Comply With New Defense Department Rules On Transgender Personnel."
http://www.palmcenter.org/files/services%20out%20of%20compliance%20memo.pdf
This followed a report from last March where former Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders led a group that concluded there were no sound medical reasons why transgender people couldn't serve in the military services. It also followed an August report outlining a blueprint for how transgender people can be integrated into the military services - integrated much in the same way as 18 of our allies have already accomplished within their military services.
Military Times covered release of this latest report by the Palm Center. "A change to a Pentagon personnel policy three months ago loosens the rules barring transgender troops from serving in the U.S. military," stated the Army and Navy Times in their article entitled Report: Loophole could allow transgender troops to serve under new DoD policy, "giving the individual services leeway to retain these personnel." The article further stated, "The update -- to Defense Department Instruction 1332.18, Disability Evaluation System -- provides a loophole for the services to let transgender troops serve instead of requiring administrative separation, the Palm Center says."
The same socially conservative religious organizations that argued against repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) such as the Center for Military Readiness, the Center for Security Policy, and the Family Research Council, are using almost identical arguments. In the end, those arguments didn't work and DADT was repealed.
DADT was a federal law passed in 1993 that barred lesbian, gay, and bisexual (LGB) service members from serving openly in the military services, and the law needed repeal before LGB service members could serve openly in recent years. All that bars transgender people from serving openly now is the DoD and individual service regulations. And, it appears that the overarching DoD regulation was weakened last August so that the four DoD military services could change their rules now to allow open transgender service.
The military didn't implode when LGB service members could serve openly in the American military services; the military won't implode if – or when - transgender service members can serve openly in the American military services. Honestly, does anybody currently serving in the military, who has given more than a moment's thought to this, really believe there won't come a point in the next five years or so where transgender service members are serving openly? I think most people who've put some thought into this know that it's not a question of whether America will have openly transgender service members at some point, but rather a question of when we'll have it.
So with that in mind, do you agree it's a question of "when" and not "if"? And if you agree it's a "when," how soon do you believe we'll see open transgender military service?
http://www.palmcenter.org/files/services%20out%20of%20compliance%20memo.pdf
This followed a report from last March where former Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders led a group that concluded there were no sound medical reasons why transgender people couldn't serve in the military services. It also followed an August report outlining a blueprint for how transgender people can be integrated into the military services - integrated much in the same way as 18 of our allies have already accomplished within their military services.
Military Times covered release of this latest report by the Palm Center. "A change to a Pentagon personnel policy three months ago loosens the rules barring transgender troops from serving in the U.S. military," stated the Army and Navy Times in their article entitled Report: Loophole could allow transgender troops to serve under new DoD policy, "giving the individual services leeway to retain these personnel." The article further stated, "The update -- to Defense Department Instruction 1332.18, Disability Evaluation System -- provides a loophole for the services to let transgender troops serve instead of requiring administrative separation, the Palm Center says."
The same socially conservative religious organizations that argued against repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) such as the Center for Military Readiness, the Center for Security Policy, and the Family Research Council, are using almost identical arguments. In the end, those arguments didn't work and DADT was repealed.
DADT was a federal law passed in 1993 that barred lesbian, gay, and bisexual (LGB) service members from serving openly in the military services, and the law needed repeal before LGB service members could serve openly in recent years. All that bars transgender people from serving openly now is the DoD and individual service regulations. And, it appears that the overarching DoD regulation was weakened last August so that the four DoD military services could change their rules now to allow open transgender service.
The military didn't implode when LGB service members could serve openly in the American military services; the military won't implode if – or when - transgender service members can serve openly in the American military services. Honestly, does anybody currently serving in the military, who has given more than a moment's thought to this, really believe there won't come a point in the next five years or so where transgender service members are serving openly? I think most people who've put some thought into this know that it's not a question of whether America will have openly transgender service members at some point, but rather a question of when we'll have it.
So with that in mind, do you agree it's a question of "when" and not "if"? And if you agree it's a "when," how soon do you believe we'll see open transgender military service?
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Who cares. I disapprove of people or servicemembers attempting to define themselves by such a narrow measure. You are a human being first and then ever so often (for about 5 to 7 minutes) your sexual self comes to the fore.
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never I pray
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I personally don't give a damn. If you are willing to step up and risk your life with the rest of us, welcome aboard.
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SSG Billy Claggett: I think you may have forgotten the comma after the word "Never", and you might be confusing people as to where you stand.
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Jesus Christ can we stick to training for War and not woke bullshit!
Anyone who is too confused to know what sex they are doesn't need to be in the military with weapons.
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If the Americans With Disabilities Act and U.S Constitution had been followed there would never have been such a thing as "Transgender" or "transgender" service.
In the last three decades since declaring Transsexuals and Transvestites as not disabled neither party has done anything to support that idea and especially not Democrats!!!!!!!
The voting record and adoption of the umbrella term transgender and subsequent attachment to the LGB supports me in saying Democrats are openly transphobic as are transgender activist such as yourself!!!
Without being able to "include" people without their consent activist like you would be nothing!
Let's start calling the lgbt what it is! The Democrats favorite outpatient civil commitment group and subversion of the U.S Constitution!
It's time for the return of the "Transsexual" separatist!! Accept this time it's going to be real!!
In the last three decades since declaring Transsexuals and Transvestites as not disabled neither party has done anything to support that idea and especially not Democrats!!!!!!!
The voting record and adoption of the umbrella term transgender and subsequent attachment to the LGB supports me in saying Democrats are openly transphobic as are transgender activist such as yourself!!!
Without being able to "include" people without their consent activist like you would be nothing!
Let's start calling the lgbt what it is! The Democrats favorite outpatient civil commitment group and subversion of the U.S Constitution!
It's time for the return of the "Transsexual" separatist!! Accept this time it's going to be real!!
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PFC Lisa McDonald
SGT Daniel Myers -
"Gay and Lesbian" youth are the most mentally dysfunctional of same sex attracted Youth! Really the least fit for military duty of young same sex attracted people! The governments own research shows that!
"Gay and Lesbian" youth are the most mentally dysfunctional of same sex attracted Youth! Really the least fit for military duty of young same sex attracted people! The governments own research shows that!
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SGT Daniel Myers
PFC Lisa McDonald yet it's the same research that they're touting now to justify this radical social experiment.
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PFC Lisa McDonald
SGT Daniel Myers - If they followed the research, existing law and the U.S Constitution the "LGBTQ+" wouldn't exist! The only reason why it exist is political pressure ans foreign demand for singular laws across all countries.
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PFC Lisa McDonald
SGT Daniel Myers - If you can get by the paywall it tells you only the 1/3rd most dysfunctional youth identify as "LGB". Notice the reporter stiull uses "LGB" language on all the kids. Its only towrds the end of the article that its revealed most reject the labels. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/12/health/gay-lesbian-teenagers-violence.html
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I think that depends a lot on what happens with the current presidential race. If a Democrat wins then it will probably be in the next 10 years. If a Republican wins then it will probably be a little while longer.
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it is time to stop the social experimentation with our military and put an end to this LGBT openly serving and get back to the business of defending this countryfrom all enemies both foreign and domestic ie liberals, LGBT, Terrorist, Muslim extremist, the Muslim Bortherhood, Obama, Hillary, ect.
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SGT Daniel Myers
No democrat is likely to win the next presidential election. Even if the pull the black messiah out of the hat.
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I am so tired of being used as a social experiment for the liberal left. We have always had these in the military only we didn't ask they didn't tell and we got along just fine. You liberals don't understand we don't have TIME to worry about what bathroom you need to you when we are being SHOT at by people who WANT TO KILL US!
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I bet you were bent out of shape when black people were able to serve in white units.
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