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Posted on Aug 23, 2021
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Cpl Vic Burk
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SGT Joseph Gunderson I don't consider myself a hero by any means. I was doing a job, a job I volunteered for. Anyone who was there to be a hero would have been better off staying out of the military.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson "This community—the community of service members and veterans—is often praised as being comprised entirely of heroes, but this is far from correct. Most men and women in uniform are just that: men and women in uniform, doing a job." I absolutely agree, great share!
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Whoah, whoah, whoah... =o)
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SFC Michael Hasbun - So my ETS date was 5 Aug 1990. I'm just going to leave that right there... Lol.
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CPL Tara Kimble
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SFC Michael Hasbun - Yes you are a hero to serve our Country for as long as you have!
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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CPL Tara Kimble - I certainly don't think so, but thank you just the same.
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We called it the Fire Guard Ribbon during my time.
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You’re Not a Hero, and That’s Okay
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The percentage of American that have served – are serving this country is small. We are all in an elite group of people willing to do what our country asks. Hero, no. What I consider a hero has nothing to do with metals or awards. The people I consider heroes are that small group that gave it all. God Bless each and every one of them.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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I am *too* a hero! My Drill Sergeant made sure to call me one every chance he got.

But, addressing the theme of the post, I understand what you are saying. In my mind, there are heroes and Heroes. And I kind of think that is what America has decided, as well.

You speak of heroes displaying bravery, and discuss how all of these folks are called heroes despite no acts of gallantry. But, there *is* a level of bravery involved in many of these professions. Signing up for the military is writing a blank check up to and including your life. That is a brave act, even if the check is never cashed. Same for those police officers, EMTs, and firefighters.

Doctors and nurses throughout the pandemic, going in to work every day as they see their colleagues being felled by the disease - even going in to work to treat their brothers and sister - and wondering if they are next. That is exceptionally brave. I will grant you that it is not "charge a machine gun nest" brave. But, honestly, for my money, it is even braver. Charging a machine gun nest can be written off to adrenalin, obedience, or even stupidity. Most folks from those types of stories didn't even realize what they were doing, they just were doing what had to be done. But those doctors and nurses who go in day after day after day. Facing down their fears - and well founded fears - swallowing the lump in their throat, and providing expert care to others. Yes, that takes some next level bravery. There isn't "one great act" to point to, but there are literally thousands of very good ones.

Teachers. Ah, teachers. Look, I understand why you say that many teachers choose that profession because it is easy. Fromt he outside, it probably does look pretty easy. And hell, on the job, it *is* pretty easy - if you don't give a damn about the job or the kids. Teaching is easy; teaching RIGHT is damned hard. Especially teaching right while adhering to silly rules and records requirements from the school administration and the school board. And doing it during a pandemic with kids in and out of the classroom, developing hybrid lesson plans on the fly, figuring out not only how to host classes online, but how to translate classroom experiences. None of that shit is easy. And again - teachers are stepping into classrooms which are giant petri dishes even when there ISN'T a pandemic. Now put them in a classroom of kids who are too young to get a vaccine? Yes, that takes some courage, too.

We have everyday heroes (little h) all over America. Their presence and their bravery does absolutely nothing to diminish the bravery and sacrifice of the extraordinary Heroes (capital H) that you wish to honor.


I understand what you are trying to say - and I don't even necessarily disagree with the theme or the concept. I did my 20 and retired, and never once earned any type of award for heroism. The opportunity never presented itself. I am confident that had duty called upon me, I would have answered. I wrote the blank check, I signed my name, and I meant it. But no one ever came to cash it. But, I want to leave you one final thought. When you discuss how recognizing many folks as heroes somehow diminishes the heroism of those within the discussion. Admiral Nimitz was asked about Iwo Jima. This is (part of) what he had to say:

Uncommon valor was a common virtue.

Just because it is common within a specific group, doesn't mean it is actually common - or that it is not worth recognizing.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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I must respectfully disagree. Words have meanings, and to somehow give "hero" some bifricated sense does, in fact, diminish that meaning. And as I stated in the piece, the hypothetical situation that could have arisen doesn't make one a hero, not in my book, nor should it be in anyone else's. We can recognize fortitude and strength and will of a lesser level without resulting to such grandiose verbiage.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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SGT Joseph Gunderson - I understand. I was trying very hard to present less of a disagreement than an alternate perspective.

I am a *very* large proponent of "words have meaning." I figuratively blow a gasket every single time I hear someone use the word "literally" in this example, or others like it. However.... also in the "words have meaning" camp is the concept that whatever meaning a word has is only valid insofar as people are willing to agree to it. So, despite the fact that "literally" does *not* mean figuratively, it has passed into the vernacular, and now it *does* actually mean figuratively.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/13/literally-broken-english-language-definition

So, America has decided that one does not need that "one great moment" to be a hero. I do not, however, think that America no longer recognizes or appreciates those who *do* have that "one great moment." No one I know of, have read, or have listened to, has tried to say that the scientists who figured out a vaccine (the "true heroes of the pandemic") or the doctors and nurses going in to the ICU (the *other* "true heroes of the pandemic") are at all the same as a MoH recipient. We still recognize great acts of bravery and heroism. We have just decided to *also* recognize the *little* acts of bravery and heroism. We have decided to honor not only Harry Potter for facing down Voldemort, but also Neville Longbottom for facing down his friends.


Also, if we *do* go with the "only one type of hero" concept, what word would *you* use for those folks who ARE committing everyday acts of bravery? Sub-hero. Hero-ish? Go with the Jewish interpretation of the German Mensch? Or maybe the German Ubermensch? Or do you wish to completely ignore these acts, as they are "beneath our recognition?"
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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SFC Casey O'Mally I do believe we've begun to lose any semblance of meaning in the word hero, and this can be evidenced in part by the destruction of meaning in words like brave(ry), which is commonly used these days to refer to acts that have no such component, ie celebrities coming out as queen in any number of ways, acts of a solely cynical nature. Thus these people are championed as heroes in their respective camps of thought. If hero can be used by entire swaths of people to characterize these types it is only because its meaning was previously diluted in the fashion I described above.
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Kristen Cook
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Great share and your absolutely right, I feel exactly the same way just didn't quit get y until now. It's a shame I suppose those that are heros are so overlooked. I refer to my husband who's a decorated combat veteran as my hero, a hero and after reading your post I can honestly say he still should be considered as such. He's definitely gone far and beyond the call of duty on more than one occasion and what he's doing now at the local CPTSD residential clinic, 12 years since seperation, 12 years since last time in theater. To go relive the TRAUMAS and STRESSORS that has haunted him for 18 years. I get now why he gets so upset by his Spec Forces brothers come home and tell their stories he always says "comic book heros don't tell who/what/where the are, Clark Kent don't say he's Super Man". I agree with the logistics but I defenitly will tell whoever will listen he is a hero! Thanks for enlightening me today!
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MAJ Matthew Arnold
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Well said. My dad received a SSM during WW2 but you'd never now it without looking at his ribbon rack. That having been said, you could have been a little less hard on teachers. I retired from the army after 24 years of service. After the army I taught English in high school for a few years. Out of all the jobs I had, in order of difficulty, teaching was only second to being an infantry platoon leader.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Teaching is one of the easiest jobs. The issue with teaching, however, is that most people doing it are unfit to do so. They can't mange time, they are easily stressed, and most of them, these days, shouldn't have been allowed to graduate college. All of this can be illustrated via data of dropping test scores and surveys taken amongst teachers. There may have well been a time when it was something else, entirely, but presently the teaching profession is full of lazy cynics.
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
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I haven't been a Hero since my daughter was little.
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
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She became my Hero when she did 2 tours of Iraq. She is now a E-8 MP in the Army and doing well with over 20 years in.
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SSG Chris Gursky
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I remember when my kids were young and I was their hero. That’s all I ever needed.
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Sgt Larry Irvine
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Well said, though, the ones who need to read it, won’t.
But well said!
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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The ones who need to read it have already been upside by the headline.
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Sgt Larry Irvine
Sgt Larry Irvine
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Truth brother, truth!SGT Joseph Gunderson
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