Fort Carson, CO
Fort Carson, CO
Posted on Sep 7, 2018
Is Geographical Bachelor for dual married military still going on?
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Is the geographical bachelor program for dual military still in effect or have they shut that down? I am still being looked at as a “single” soldier, but I have been married to another active duty soldier that is stationed in a completely different station then me for almost two years and have never received BAH or BAS because they put me in the barracks since I have been married. I’ve put in packet to fix that and had both my troop and squadron commander sign off on the 5960 stating that they agree that I should be getting it? Is there something wrong going on or am I in the wrong because my husband is out of the barracks (i am in the barracks), and receives BAH and BAS.
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Fort Carson
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Hey . I have been in the barracks for more than a year . Not BAH , not BAS. We are six hours Apart . I have talked to everybody on post to help me get out the barracks . Husband can not even come here to visit me because we do not have a place to stay . After doing this for more than a year , I try to relocate closer to him with not succes or support from my chain of command. We have been married for five years , two of them living apart ; six hours distance . Thankfully , I am being chapter under chapter 8 and going back to my normal marriage and happy life. Plus I have been paying Storage for my household goods too . Very very unfair. Nobody will ever understand until they have throught this situation.
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I am in a similar boat, so I would also be interested in the answer. My wife is staying behind while I attend flight school. I will be fine on the old system after I pin WO1, but if she PCSs in the meantime, she is still below e6 and most locations will claim geobachelor status and throw her in the barracks (despite being married with 3 dogs and an entire household full of furniture). I also will be in a situation where onpost at Rucker will not give me a house until after WOCS, so I guess my HHG will be in a storage room for a month?
I’m amazed that the system treats single Soldiers and dual mil who have been separated as the same thing.
I’m amazed that the system treats single Soldiers and dual mil who have been separated as the same thing.
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Well I’m 0 for 2 on Rally Point saving the day before I just look it up myself.
Here’s the deal:
As a dual military couple, the geographical bachelor program does not apply to you. That was a program specifically geared towards married Soldiers who left their dependent in one state(presumably for medical/school reasons) and lived in the barracks pulling that BAH to prevent financial hardship(I.e. a SMs spouse was in San Francisco and the SM moved without them to Kansas, the BAH in SF is waaaaaay higher and they would need that to provide for their family).
The Joint Travel Regulation (JTR) governs housing requirements for dual military personnel. Regrettably, it treats us as single Soldiers if we do not have a child. This means that local post policy on housing becomes your guidance if you and your spouse are not sharing a house. If there is room for a SPC/PV2 in the barracks(quarters), you will be placed in the barracks until a time when you are reunited. There are exceptions to policy however, such as if only one person leaves, the other is entitled to keep their current domicile.
Basically, unless the garrison commander signs an exception to policy/certificate of non-availability, or there is no room in the barracks (prompting the ETP/CNA), you will most likely wind up in the barracks.
Well I’m 0 for 2 on Rally Point saving the day before I just look it up myself.
Here’s the deal:
As a dual military couple, the geographical bachelor program does not apply to you. That was a program specifically geared towards married Soldiers who left their dependent in one state(presumably for medical/school reasons) and lived in the barracks pulling that BAH to prevent financial hardship(I.e. a SMs spouse was in San Francisco and the SM moved without them to Kansas, the BAH in SF is waaaaaay higher and they would need that to provide for their family).
The Joint Travel Regulation (JTR) governs housing requirements for dual military personnel. Regrettably, it treats us as single Soldiers if we do not have a child. This means that local post policy on housing becomes your guidance if you and your spouse are not sharing a house. If there is room for a SPC/PV2 in the barracks(quarters), you will be placed in the barracks until a time when you are reunited. There are exceptions to policy however, such as if only one person leaves, the other is entitled to keep their current domicile.
Basically, unless the garrison commander signs an exception to policy/certificate of non-availability, or there is no room in the barracks (prompting the ETP/CNA), you will most likely wind up in the barracks.
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My personal recommendation would be to go through your command team. Have them write a memorandum to the approval authority for the barracks program(which by regulation is the installation commander, however in the past I have seen this assigned to the garrison commander). The memorandum should state why you would require BAH and family housing over the barracks. This could be any number of things including financial hardship, husband is within driving distance and therefore commuting is an option, etc.
It sounds like your command team is currently in the middle of doing this process. They may say yes, they may say no. I think it is a backwards policy and again, I feel as though it is insulting that dual mil are treated less than married SMs to a non-military dependent. It does not seem conducive to keeping a larger pool of people to recruit from, as no one wants to be treated lesser because they swore the same oath as their spouse. Hopefully it will change in the future.
It sounds like your command team is currently in the middle of doing this process. They may say yes, they may say no. I think it is a backwards policy and again, I feel as though it is insulting that dual mil are treated less than married SMs to a non-military dependent. It does not seem conducive to keeping a larger pool of people to recruit from, as no one wants to be treated lesser because they swore the same oath as their spouse. Hopefully it will change in the future.
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As of right now he is a SPC, SFC. We were both the same rank at one point then I was promoted before him but lost rank and he gained.
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SGT Philip Klein
PV2 (Join to see) yeah, seems like they might owe you some money, but you’ve been living on the Army’s dime all this time. Did you eat at the dfac for free too? And anyway, as soon as you’re divorced it’s back to barracks. Single privates don’t live off post at Carson.
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SGT Philip Klein I’ve eaten at the dfac maybe 5 or 6 times Sgt. And I’ve barely started the paperwork so we have almost a year left till anything is taken care of
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