Posted on Jan 9, 2017
CPT Chris Loomis
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Theoretically, when there is a need, how is a new Army unit stood up and "made?" Whatnis the overall process? How often do this occur in reality?
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LTC Jason Mackay
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The CSA will decide based on recommendations from the field, the DA G3 based on a DOTLOMPF validated need (usually from the COCOM level), the branch proponent doing the leg work for the DOTLOMPF (reoccurring Gap Analysis) , the G5 strength potentially identifying bill payers for people-G3/4 identifying equipment donors. This wildly summarized (years long) process ends with an MTOE/TDA published by USAFMSA and an FY (E date) to be effective. DA G3 will identify a unit lineage from an order of merit list maintained by the TIOH. Streamers, colors, guidons etc should be ordered, but will likely be overlooked until 60 days out when a snarky staff officer identifies the shortfall (experience based sarcasm). A HQDA EXORD will be issued to the gaining MACOM with the E-date. The gaining command and HRC will start routing the personnel there within 12 months of the E Date. The booger gets flicked on the MACOM to stand it up. Equipment will trickle into the MACOM PBO/G4 channels and start to be fenced until the property book can be established. The month of the E Date, the unit will report C5 on the USR, likely with an internal USR done 2-3 months out from the E Date. Somewhere in there they will end up on a deployment order (sarcasm) with in 6 months of the E Date.

I probably missed a bunch, but that is what I have seen. The concept pings back and forth between the proponent, the G357, and the field to get the mission and the MTOE as right as they can get it before it sees the light of day with the CSA.

For light after dinner reading, you may also want to look at AR 220-1 and AR 220-5. The latter discusses activation, redesignation, and deactivation
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LTC Jason Mackay
LTC Jason Mackay
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How often does this happen? Not too often but often enough that there is a process. Mostly happens in conjunction with reflagging
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SSG Lyle O'Rorke
SSG Lyle O'Rorke
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I went thru a few as members of staff at different levels from theater command staff level down to battalion level. It's a neat process but can be a pain in the butt for those doing the last minute leg work
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MAJ Glynn Garcia
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It happened several times after 2003 in response to complaints of units being deployed too often. Check the division rosters for units (Bn and Co) that were stood up and units deactivated between 2004 and 2012. The same people were still being deployed, but the Army could point to units and say: "On no, this was a completely different unit than the one we sent last year". Slick.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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MAJ Glynn Garcia - we had an HR Company and a FI Unit. They were constantly on depords. What they Army needed was like five postal companies and five put FINCOs. Sure there are other examples but I saw this first hand. They put our HR Co on depord before they even were stood up as a unit.
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SFC Everett Oliver
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It's not fun... LTC Jason Mackay gave you the run down, I was actually the first person assigned to a new company. The first day there was me, an empty barracks and a box of keys. I spent 2 days (as a SFC) taking the locks out of the doors and moving them around, just in case there were other sets of keys out there somewhere. I think it was the third day when I got the call that there were 32 new troops right out of AIT waiting at the rec center. I didn't have a clerk, any blank meal cards, I didn't have beds, blankets, or even wall lockers. In fact i didn't even have a supply Sergeant or even a typewriter.... Such memories.....
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What is a typewriter?
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SFC Everett Oliver
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MAJ (Join to see) - Grandfather of a teletype.
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SFC Everett Oliver
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LTC Jason Mackay - To be fair no one knew that troops would be arriving when they did... So i was told... And HHC did send over a clerk and a SP4 to open a supply room, with what was basically borrowed from A,B, and C companies....
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LTC Jason Mackay
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MAJ (Join to see) - google microfiche reader
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SGT Dave Tracy
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I don't know what the mechanisms are behind the scenes for standing up a unit, but having experienced it, its an interesting process to watch unfold around you.
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