Posted on May 29, 2014
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Hello, just joined this community through a friend of mine and am pleased to see an active military getting together to support each other.

My reason for creating this post is to see my case of submitting a BAH waiver for a situation I am having trouble with.

I am an E-5 with the guard, former Marine Sgt. I finally received my slot to go to AIT for my new MOS and received PCS orders to this 6 month (185 days) school. I was told before I left, and I believe it was even turned on, that I would receive BAH for my HOR. I set everything into place and took off on my adventure. Upon arrival, I was issued a barracks room, and to my surprise I was told I had to sign a stop BAH form. I had no choice but to sign it to be able to class up.

I am single with no children. I am on PCS orders (title 32) for ADT for a new MOS. I do not see anywhere on my orders that say anything about HHG, only a Temporary Change of station shipment weight of 600 lbs. Dependents were also not allowed on my orders, even though I have none.

I have looked over the JFTR several times, specifically chapter 10 that deals with BAH. It has a section specifically for reserve members that talks about BAH, and I fit into several of the categories to receive BAH, and was even authorized from the state in the first place to receive it.

Elsewhere in the JFTR is states that "PARTIAL RATES. A MEMBER WITHOUT DEPENDENTS WHO IS ASSIGNED TO SINGLE-TYPE QUARTERS OR IS ON FIELD OR SEA DUTY, AND IS NOT AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE A BAH OR OHA, IS AUTHORIZED BAH-PARTIAL AT THE RATES PROVIDED AT HTTP:/PERDIEM.HQDA.PENTAGON.MIL/PERDIEM/.

This is apparently the one policy that stops me.

I believe it is PPOM 11-075 that can be submitted for a BAH indebtedness waiver. I was hoping some finance guru's out there can take a moment and post any info they may have on this memorandum and if it can apply to my situation of financial hardship.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.
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CMSgt James Nolan
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At face value, I think that it sucks. But I would have to sit down with my finance guys to make sure that I was right. I think that you got screwed by taking PCS orders. You are not PCS-ing, you are TDY-ing. I say that because as a guard guy, I went to a 6 month school and was given the option of PCS-ing. I was not PCS-ing, I was TDY-ing to a SCHOOL, not looking for a new duty station.
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CMSgt James Nolan
CMSgt James Nolan
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I may be wrong (believe it or not, that has happened!), but the school you are going to probably is a PCS-if you are Active Duty, you are not. You will very likely have problems with the finance section there because they are used to dealing with Active Duty problems, which sometimes are different than Guard problems. You may want to see if there is a Guard Liaison Office there, because sometimes they can be of much help. Otherwise, you should reach back home to your 1stSgt and request a little Love. Each unit does things differently-all things. Good luck.
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I am having the same issue, but I have not yet shipped. I am a national guard member with financial obligations at home. Shouldn't a guard member receive bah while in school ? Where do I go to get this squared away ?
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Same thing is happening to me and another soldier on orders for longs schools. They seriously expect us to just just all ties and break leases or sell our property for a 6-9 month school? That's retarded. Not happy with the way I am being treated and if they expect to keep good soldiers they need to fix this.
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CMSgt James Nolan
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SGT (Join to see) I know that Army and Air Guard are different, but....
several years ago, I went to a 6 month school (Guard), it was just a long TDY, there was no PCS. You should definitely talk with your home unit. You are coming back to that unit, so your life should continue (at home). I think that there is an OPTION to PCS, so that one could bring family, but not all family has the ability to just bounce for 6 months..
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