Posted on Apr 15, 2014
CW2 Jonathan Kantor
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Have you ever experienced or observed discrimination in the military?<br><br>How did you handle the situation?<br><br>Were you more inclined to get out after it?<br><br>What type of discrimination?&nbsp; This could be race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, lack of religion, height, weight, ethnicity, and anything else I can't think of at this moment.<br><br>Please share your experiences and I suggest not using anyone's names.<br>
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COL Robert White
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As a man of color, I am sorry to say that early in my career I did experience discrimination. It seemed to get better throughout my career. Is it better these days?
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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As a Caucasian Enlisted Female in the Army in 1984, stationed at Ft McClellan, Alabama; I dated men of all ethnic backgrounds. Extremely difficult to be in public at that time and place. Racial slurs were constantly ‘thrown’ at us the minute we left post.
Sometimes we addressed the racial slurs; however, found it to be counterproductive. So, we just ignored ignorant bigots. We did Not feel the need to explain ourselves or relationship(even friends) with ignorant bigots.
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SGT Senior Warrior Liaison
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I have experienced discrimation personally.


 


I'm English and i used to be a 19D. for my first 4 years there wasnt a day that passed where there wasnt some kind of jab about my heritage. It was especially potent from my platoon sergeant. I was smoked a buuunch, gave the crappy detailes ect... that could be my personal rendition but when i started winning soldier of the month competitions and nothing changed so i kept the same mentality about why this was happening.


 


I think i handled it pretty well. I never lost my cool or started cussing out those rendering the rediculous excersizes or name calling. If anything it made me remarkably resilient. There really isnt much that can get under my skin anymore and i learned a great deal about myself in the process. I also learned how not to be a leader, I feel i do a better job with understanding than instilling fear.


 


Though i played with the thought about getting out because of the constant ridiculing i never let those situations make my descisions for me.


 


I dont want to sound like a "woe is me" kinda guy. I think when you're a brand new Soldier those kinds of things are neccessary. but i would have preferred for to it to be confined to basic and not my duty station.

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CW2 Jonathan Kantor
CW2 Jonathan Kantor
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Thank you for sharing.  I didn't even think of nationality when I wrote the question.  I have worked with Soldiers from all sorts of different countries and never saw this kind of treatment.  Good for you for not letting that kind of crap push you into getting out or losing your cool.
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SGT Senior Warrior Liaison
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Meh, looking back at it i feel that it really enabled me to endure a lot of hardships, thick skin is hard to make by yourself. I do feel that the older NCO's were certainly leaning towards the bigot side of the fence. My grandad used to say "you live, you learn" I just kind of applied that to the situation.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
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I joined the Navy in England, so my boot camp nickname was "English."
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PO3 Donald Murphy
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I was in sub school and we had a gentleman from Harlem. Another one was from the backest woods of Georgia. Had a confed. flag tatoo on his chest and some other weird symbol that we were told was part of the KKK order. Both of these gentlemen were incredibly well schooled but both were also incredibly racist. If the black sailor dropped a pipe, the white sailor would comment "that's what happens when you let _____ near machinery." All would shout him down, but to no avail. If the white sailor dropped the rope, the black sailor would correspond in like. All would shout him down as well but no avail either. Command was notified and scheduled to meet with the two of them. Flooding Team Trainer. Two teams enter and "get flooded." You then have to "fix the flood." You're taught how to fix the flood. To make sure you were listening, multiple "leaks." When all done, the lights come on and the speaker announces for the current team to leave and next team to go in. There's still residual flooding while they drain everything.

Crusty Master Chief sends Yankee and Reb in first and closes the door. Makes announcement that "flooding trainer is secured for the day, all hands lay to (go home)." Then starts the flooding as we're walking out. Reb and Yankee understand that there's been a mistake and that flooding is going on WITH THEM INSIDE!!!!! They realize they're too far in the trainer to hit the chicken switch to shut it off; they have to stop the flooding. Both work together - swearing at first - then collectively put the necessary clamps on the pipes. While swinging the necessary gear into place, Reb hits his cheek and is bleeding. Yankee holds a rag over it while he helps Reb put the necessary pressure on. Master Chief knocks off two additional main seawater valves. These start filling the room and Reb grabs Yankee by the collar to move him out of the way of floating/flying debris. At that point the Chief shuts off everything and drains the room.

Door opens and there stands two soaking wet sailors holding each other like school kids that missed their bus. They help each other out and then in an instant catch what each other has done. Master Chief smacks both of them on the backs of the heads. "Now get the f**k back to barracks and muster for chow." They look at us as if to ask "what happened" and we give that "we-know-as-much-as-you" look. We all head back to the barracks together. No one says a word. Sub school's over. Time to go to the first boat. Leave first. Its close to Thanksgiving. People are heading home. Guess who's taking a trip to New York to see the Big Apple? Guess who's his guide? You couldn't make this stuff up. I hooked up with "Georgia" later in Navy life. Him and "York" were going hunting in the back woods for R&R and "would I like to come?" Hell yeah - always down for some hunting. It was like watching two twin brothers. Both had gone on to different boats but both remembered that theres only one color in the Navy...Haze Grey.
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SPC Nancy Greene
SPC Nancy Greene
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Phenomenal share which demonstrates the ability to Navy first! Extremely lucky things turned out well...could have gone terribly wrong on SO Many levels. Thanks for your part of Naval History.
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