Paralegal NCO
Paralegal NCO
Posted on Jul 12, 2023
Is it standard or even typical as a form of disciplinary action for an NCO to call a soldier's parents to complain about the service member?
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Hello Rallypoint Members!
I have a question regarding disciplinary actions that I have received from my detachment SFC. So I got myself into some trouble with an MP (argued with an MP after having a few beers), not gonna go into great detail (I own the mistakes that I made) but I am confused about one thing that my detachment sergeant has done regarding my disciplinary actions. The day after my altercation with the MP’s, my detachment SFC called me into her office, she informed me about what reprimands I could be facing (which I expected) but she also made me write down my mother and father’s phone numbers and she actually called them to tell them how much of a dirt bag I had been (which I did not expect). I am a grown man and can face the legal and moral repercussions of my own actions but was taken aback to find out that my NCO had called my family to inform them of the mistakes that I had made. Is this standard procedure in the military or even a typical form of disciplinary action for an NCO to make?
Any and all input is appreciated!
Thanks!
I have a question regarding disciplinary actions that I have received from my detachment SFC. So I got myself into some trouble with an MP (argued with an MP after having a few beers), not gonna go into great detail (I own the mistakes that I made) but I am confused about one thing that my detachment sergeant has done regarding my disciplinary actions. The day after my altercation with the MP’s, my detachment SFC called me into her office, she informed me about what reprimands I could be facing (which I expected) but she also made me write down my mother and father’s phone numbers and she actually called them to tell them how much of a dirt bag I had been (which I did not expect). I am a grown man and can face the legal and moral repercussions of my own actions but was taken aback to find out that my NCO had called my family to inform them of the mistakes that I had made. Is this standard procedure in the military or even a typical form of disciplinary action for an NCO to make?
Any and all input is appreciated!
Thanks!
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Perhaps I'm showing my age, but I find it incredible that any military authority would involve your parents in a disciplinary situation unless they were directly involved in the incident. One of the objectives of recruit training is the recognition that the serviceman alone is responsible and accountable for his actions and held accountable for his/her conduct under the UCMJ. Including a persons parents in the resolution of conduct matters sounds like the sandlot "I'm going to tell your Mommy" reaction.
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CPL James S.
SPC (Join to see) - why did you hide your name, Lee Taylor? You do know your name is still listed in all the e-mails that notified me of a response, right?
so I'll reiterate (that's a fancy way of saying I'm going to repeat myself): https://dyslexiahelp.umich.edu/tools/apps/learn-read-write-and-spell-free
so I'll reiterate (that's a fancy way of saying I'm going to repeat myself): https://dyslexiahelp.umich.edu/tools/apps/learn-read-write-and-spell-free
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CPL James S. - And all that proves mommies little tit sucker and daddies little asshole cleaner is u are just like a DUMB infantry POT and u ARE environmental waste.
And demoncrat ur the one that needs what u post not me bitch.
And demoncrat ur the one that needs what u post not me bitch.
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CPT Larry Hudson
Rally Point does not need to read an argument between two soldiers or civilians. Find a site that welcomes such dribble.
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CPT Larry Hudson - SIT ON IT KID! When u are supporting using NONE military to try to get soldiers to change what u are doing U ARE WRONG PERIOD.
And I do not need a low life little boy like u getting into things.
And I do not need a low life little boy like u getting into things.
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After counseling and retraining, I have called a parent -- that was because through counseling I found that the dad (retired army) was a huge influence on my Soldier's life. Use all the tools in the toolbox; in this case, the tool was able to explain the consequences of continued actions in a more relatable manner to the Soldier. Soldier matured and was pivotal downrange...
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
It Would Be ONE Cold Day In HELL Before I'd Actually Contact The Parents OF An Adult.
To My Way Of Thinking, Unless We're Babysitting; Toss The SOB Out; When He Matures Into A Real Adult, Then Allow Him To Reapply... THEN I'd Have To Think About It FIRST.!
To My Way Of Thinking, Unless We're Babysitting; Toss The SOB Out; When He Matures Into A Real Adult, Then Allow Him To Reapply... THEN I'd Have To Think About It FIRST.!
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CSM Chuck Stafford
A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney - A good NCO knows his mission and his men and makes his decisions balancing the two within the given situation. We could've thrown the book at him, but we didn't. Luckily for us, our gut instincts were correct and the decision proved to be wise downrange, but then again, a good NCO knows his mission and his soldiers -- it wasn't luck.
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CSM Chuck Stafford - U should be in jail for doing what is not supposed to be allowed. And if I was there when this happened u would have been. FACT!!!! And I would have stayed inside the bounds of what is allowed per the military. Nice to know mommy gets a call from the front lines from ur cell cause they do not want to do something. U should not be anything but a slick sleeve for rank.
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CSM Chuck Stafford
SPC (Join to see) - For someone who wasn't a part of the situation, not intimately aware of all the pertinent details, and not responsible for Soldiers as they were preparing for a combat deployment - Thank-you for this comment Taylor; it confirms not only the lack of leadership experience displayed in your comments of 9 months ago, but how little growth and maturation you've made in the same time period. My recommendation is to let it go -- All parties involved are happy with the outcome, the deployment was a success and we have the national recognitions to show for it. Don't let this conversation from 9 months ago keep eating at you. It is ok to let go.
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Neither standard nor typical. That is reserved for only a very select few - those we see potential in, we belive are heading down the wrong path, and their NCOs have not been able to get through to them. And the Soldier in question is usually very young and at their first duty station, and their first time being out from under mommy and daddy.
Most of the time the goal is that one or both of your parents will lay into you and give you hell in a way that will get your attention. The hope is that, as your NCOs have not been able to provide that necessary "come to Jesus" moment, your parents will.
Most of the time the goal is that one or both of your parents will lay into you and give you hell in a way that will get your attention. The hope is that, as your NCOs have not been able to provide that necessary "come to Jesus" moment, your parents will.
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SSG S Dawson boy you just have to put your two cents in every response get off your f$$# keyboard jockey
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