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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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Bring them out of the Damn Closet. When the effin hell will we grow up and quit worrying about such matters. While I served never met any Trans that I knew of but since I retired I have met several retired Navy Senior Enlisted that Trans from Men to Women after they retired. I can't imagine how horrible that was for them to hide this for 20 years.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel I've got to agree with you. Well said. Trying to hide something so you can continue to serve (most likely because you WANT to serve your country) isn't fair.
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1SG Patrick Sims
1SG Patrick Sims
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I can't imagine the difficulties one would have in hiding their gender. I would suggest they make the decision who they are, before they join the military and take it from there. What I don't appreciate is someone who becomes a member of the US military, with the intension of having the government pay for their gender reassignment surgery. If you want to be a member of the military---find.---Decide who you are first.
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SFC Mark Merino
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All I know is that when the bullets start flying, I want the individual sharing my foxhole to be an expert marksman. But remember Murphy's Law of Combat: NEVER share a foxhole with anyone braver than you.
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SSG Patricia King
SSG Patricia King
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Captain Peace would be your woman then.
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LTJG Executive Assistant To The Deputy Commandant
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I'm a pretty decent shot, but I don't know if I'll ever be in any foxholes. I'll leave that to the ground pounders like SSG King and Capt Peace :)
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Cpl Jeff N.
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The Army is bigger than any one individual soldier. The Army will gain nothing from accepting TG people in it's ranks. The only thing that would do is draw more to the Army for free (tax supported) treatments. The bottom line is people cannot change their DNA no matter how many treatments/surgeries they have.
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LTJG Executive Assistant To The Deputy Commandant
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The line is being drawn by the Pentagon as we speak. In the meantime, I recommend that you research more into the specifics of transgender conditions and treatments.
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Cpl Jeff N.
Cpl Jeff N.
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LTJG (Join to see) . If you were born a man, then your genetic code is that of a man's. Since you (editorial you) are not comfortable being a man, you are not comfortable with your genetic code. It isn't complicated. You cannot change who you are. You might be able to have surgery to change how things look but that is only to make you think you are something you are not.
I don't think we want anyone on the front lines that is so confused and in denial they are not even sure who/what they are and meet need significant medication/treatment to maintain the façade.

I know everyone these days thinks they are a special snowflake and the entire world should look to accommodate their every wish/desire. The military has a mission TG in the ranks are not going to add to mission accomplishment. It is a distraction to good order and discipline and is all about the individual and not the Corps.
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LTJG Executive Assistant To The Deputy Commandant
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Cpl Jeff N. - You do not know what my genetic code is, because even I don't know the specifics. I was not born a man, I was born a baby. I am not confused or in denial about who or what I am, because I am female with no ifs, ands or buts. "Significant medication" is currently needed by thousands of current service members for a variety of medical issues, and the need for ongoing medication does not necessarily preclude anyone from serving. The medications and treatments that are medically necessary for transgender people are quite safe and make already stable people even more stable.

I am not a special snowflake, and I require absolutely no special treatment. I only need the same level of care that is provided to all other service members. As neither a doctor nor a psychologist, you have no grounds but your own personal opinion to state that transgender service members should not get the proper treatment. 18 other countries, including all of our English-speaking allies, can attest to the fact that allowing transgender service member access to the care they need does not hurt the mission or capabilities of the military, and in many cases it actually helps.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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The more science is done they are finding there is no Black and White, Male and Female but different degrees, chemically and every which way. I'm glad to see the Military is getting out front with this. Thanks for Speaking out about this ENS Alexandra Marberry.
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