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LTC Stephen F.
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LTC (Join to see) Baking a cake isn't the issue. Being coerced to inscribe specific the words on top of the cake, etc. is the primary issue of disagreement. If radicalized muslims, homosexuals, vegans, or any other group want to have specific words inscribed on top of a cake the most logical solution would be for the group to buy the cake of their choice and inscribe whatever words they want onto the cake themselves.
Since these cases tend to be targeted confrontations I wouldn't expect much reasonable behavior from them.
Unlike race and gender it is not obvious what sexual orientation or lack of orientation a person may hold at a particular time merely by looking at them.
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I think you're wrong about words being the issue. This store refuses to bake the cake, period. They feel that simply providing a cake to a gay wedding somehow violates their right to freely exercise their religion, which of course it doesn't. Rather, the truth is that they are trying to turn the right to exercise their religion freely into the right to refuse service to anyone who doesn't believe what they believe. And this wasn't an activist setup. It was a local guy who had been a regular customer at this bakery who wanted them to bake their wedding cake, just like others do.
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SGT Forrest Stewart
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"We have the right to refuse service to anyone" used to be posted on the front doors and on the wall behind the cash registers in a miriad of businesses. Those signs need to come back in a HUGE way. Having rights is for everyone, not just those with "differing" agendas.
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SGT Forrest Stewart
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LTC (Join to see) - I understand what you're saying Sir. There is a difference in what you and I are saying. Racial discrimination and blantant intolerance are certainly wrong. Saying no to doing something, baking a cake for a gay wedding for example, because you believe it to be morally wrong, should not constitute a law suit. The owners did offer to direct this couple to other bakeries that would have accommodated them with no problem.

Is it discrimination for me as a landlord to not rent to someone who will not agree to a nonsmoking or a drug free clause? I don't believe so.

Guess I've rattled on long enough.
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SGT Forrest Stewart - You know what? I think I'd actually be all right with this. "We don't serve gays," "blacks not welcome," "no admittance for Muslims," "whites not wanted," etc. Let the general public know exactly what kind of douchebags you are - because if you're willing to turn away money because of the hand it's coming from, you're a douchebag - and gamble on the future of your business as you will.

Do people have the right to run their private business as they will? Absolutely! Do people have the right not to patronize said businesses? Absolutely!
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SGT Forrest Stewart
SGT Forrest Stewart
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SSG (Join to see) - first, thank you for name calling. There are plenty of places everywhere that have no problem celebrating homosexually, including doing weddings, baking cakes, etc. It's wrong for anyone to push their agendas on anyone. The US government says it's OK for same sex couples to be married. The Bible certainly does not agree nor does the Quran, nor any other religious book or writings, unless by chance it was written recently.

If I believe something is morally wrong, there's no way I'm going to participate. Frankly, I don't care
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SGT Forrest Stewart
SGT Forrest Stewart
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what you do in your bedroom, just don't ask me to join you.

If you don't want to follow rules that you have agreed to in advance, I have a problem with that. You want to tear things up that don't belong to you? If it's my stuff, I'm going to have issues with that.

Have a great day Sgt.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
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The 1st Amendment in action - The Delormes have a right to make a stand on what they believe is right. The gay community has the right to take a stand on what they believe is right.

No one gets to think they should be allowed to have convictions without consequences.
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