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PO1 Michael Fullmer
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As a member of the LE community, it pains me when something like happens. Once a full investigation is completed, and "IF" she is found negligent/guilty, I hope she is prosecuted to the fullest. It is incidents like these that give ALL of us in law enforcement a bad name and leave us to deal with the community backlash...which is no easy task, a lot of the time. I extend my personal condolences to Mr. Crutcher's family.
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PO1 Michael Fullmer
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CW3 (Join to see) - I did, however, there are always those who will insist it is something else. In this case, I am not one of them.
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SSG Trust Palmer
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CW3 (Join to see) - People only see what that want to see. Someone will justify this... 5...4...3...2...
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People will crucify the police no matter what evidence they find over the course of their investigation and will never be satisfied regardless of the outcome 5....4....3...2...
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Police get the automatic benefit of the doubt. This innocent black man had his car breakdown. That's ALL that happened. Why does that merit an aggressive posture on the police's part and an execution?
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SSG Warren Swan
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My question would be: The officer shot him as another was tazing him. She couldn't hold fire until Crutcher was on the ground? You can taze multiple times, so why fire? I also ask why she and the other officers made the narrative he was not cooperating. Why are we seeing this play out over and over again with this book of catch phases they use? Some ARE justified, others like this protects the cop, but has nothing for the victim. So this officer and those with her get their stories straight, write it up and brief the boss, and the boss briefs the media. Now the dashcam footage is out, and it proves the gentleman did nothing wrong, and the shooting was an excessive use of force. ANY of us on here harm a hair on a cop, you won't be placed on admin leave. You might get admin seg while you wait to see the judge. It doesn't take but a few seconds to arrest a regular Joe for murder, but she'll be collecting a check at the house until the DOJ finishes their end of the investigation? It would almost seem that there is justice for the cops when something happens to them, but when it happens to a minority or a poor White person, justice is suing the city and getting some chump change as a way of "winning the ghetto lottery". This is the second time Tulsa has had someone shoot an unarmed man that once everything came out, the cop was in the wrong. With the release of that dash cam footage, emotionally she should be arrested with the quickness, but logically we have to wait for the investigation to end. Don't try to judge her? We don't need to; the dash cam does it for us.
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SSG Trust Palmer
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SPC Chelsea Fernandez - And you're so right. Folks telling me about my "internal rage" on here. GTFOH! This is MY FAMILY!!! This wasn't some "Bad looking dude!" F a song! America needs to get this RIGHT! We are the laughing stock for more then one reason. When The Almighty God comes His wrath won't be pretty and HE ain't no punk!

I'm tired of it! I'm tired! I can't express myself without being looked down upon. I don't give a damn about anybody judging me! Our younger generation is being conditioned an I DO NOT Like it!!! Then some fool ask me what do I me by OUR or ALL . Fool if you not smart enough to understand what all means... Don't relply. Pick up a dictionary!

You have a known Islamist that set out to do harm to many and he was taken ALIVE! My family had car trouble and was MURDERED!

I don't give a damn about what was or was not said... SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO MURDER HIM!
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You are 100% correct. There is a HUGE problem in this country with cops who shoot first and ask questions later. There used to be cops who could talk shooters down. Now they shoot instead...

Los Angeles County requires their deputies to do two years as a Corrections officer first, so they learn how to use their heads. Perhaps all cops should... This is a suggestion of my friend The Rev. M Hamilton Stevens, of Camden NJ, a Retired AF CMSGT...

SSG Trust Palmer I am very sorry for the loss of your family member. I hope that changes will happen in this country that will bring you comfort...
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LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow - Thank you
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SSG Trust Palmer - You're welcome
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SFC Mark Merino
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I'm going to take that crazy position of saying that we need to get the full story before we start shooting at cops again. This story is clearly written by someone who wouldn't know impartiality if his life depended on it. This is the journalism that sells papers. We also had witnesses in past case that said that hands were up which were proven false. POTUS very hypocritically asked the media to wait for the facts when his precious Islamist went into Thanksgiving turkey carving mode. Let's see how long it takes The race baiters to descend like locusts for this case. Once again, we see escalation of force by those who just can't be bothered by complying with a lawful order from the police. Well, whatever your personal belief on the matter, no matter what direction the investigation takes, no matter who will be prosecuted or not, the end result was the same.......another person is dead. I do what the police say and I take my ass home alive. There is no conspiracy for police to kill black people, but there is a campaign to make things as hard as possible for the police. Justice will be done. But in some people's minds justice is never served.
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SSG Trust Palmer
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SFC Mark Merino - I don't need to work on anything and yes, for once. I'll make sure I tell my family you send you condolences.
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SSG Trust Palmer
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SFC Merino common decency would be to not say anything to SSG Palmer, especially that she should work on her emotions. She just watched, as well as most on this thread, a video of her family member being murdered by police for doing nothing. No one needs to wait for anything. What we do know is a non- black guy set off a bomb injuring 29 people, had a shootout with police and was arrested alive after injuring two police. Her cousin, a black man, was shot after his car broke down. People are more upset about Kap taking a knee during the National Anthem... this is the reason why he is protesting. P.S. it is not a good look to play devil's advocate when it involves someone's family member. Respectfully
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SSG Trust Palmer
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SFC (Join to see) - Thank you! I appreciate your words.
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