Posted on Dec 13, 2016
BREAKING - TRUMP talks to TAIWAN - History of US/China Relations, Explains Media's Reaction to...
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Do you understand all the hoopla over Trump's phone call with the newly-elected Taiwanese President?
A short while ago, I shared a link to a documentary about Taiwan and China and their volatile relationship. It's important that we understand this inasmuch as Donald Trump has touched a nerve by just talking to a Taiwanese official. I asked a friend who was born on Taiwan and served in their military before emigrating to the U.S., to comment on this video, to learn how much of it, from his perspective, was true. He agreed to allow me to share his response...
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As far as the Chinese jet fighter j10, one has to know what is the percentage of it is made in China and is it using Chinese made engine even though it is advertised that it is made in China. There is a news last year bats was suck in the engine and it down the plane. So, is it a 24 hour jet fighter? or is it usable during the late afternoon when the bats are flying out of their nest by the thousands? A recent news about a woman pilot when she eject due to engine problem was killed by another j10 during a training session. My assessment is that their tactical formation is not mature enough to prevent killing pilots in emergency situations.
As far as invisibility of the fighter jet, they got it from a down f22. When the US bomb the Chinese embassy a few years back it did not penetrate deep enough to destroy the f22 parts in the deep basement. It killed 3 people which damage the Chinese spy network in Europe as we know that spy is operated in a one to one reporting structure. Chinese also get the super unman technology including early invisibility from a down US airplane in the 1974. The Chinese claim their aerospace technology advance 10 years by reverse engine the down US intelligent plane in southern China a few years back.
As far as submarine, I remember during the cold war, US laid sensors all over the sea bottom to sense the Soviet submarines. I question that our intelligent can not detect the Chinese submarine. I have not heard Chinese submarine about going under the ice in North pole. So the coverage of their submarine is questionable. I think the media make this kind of video is trying to make Chinese complaisant.
As far as the aircraft carrier, the US start building them since 1922. With all of the years of operating them with sinking all of the Japanese aircraft carrier to the current super nuclear powered aircraft carrier. The cumulated experience of all of the operating and tactical formation of the fleet is tremendous. Chinese bought a used aircraft carrier and just start trying it but they have not build their own yet even though rumor said they are in the process building one. By the size of the building where they build it, it is going to be maybe a diesel engine small aircraft carrier.
Mainland is trying to do Economic warfare with Taiwanese. The current statistics shows the Taiwanese economy about 60% depends on the tourist and produce export to China. Taiwan is like a large aircraft carrier right outside of China, the US will never give it up. On top of the weapon sells income from the country every year.
Taiwan has its own internal problem. After world war 2, there is 600,000 Japanese who do not want to go back to Japan. The Taiwanese is kind enough to take them in. These 600,000 become 3,000,000 now a days and they spread all levels in the society. These people is the major force that want to make Taiwan independent. In other words: two China. The KMD is not in power at this time. KMD claimed one China but just do not control the majority of the country only Taiwan.
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Here is the link to the video on which he was commenting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq79yiIszyY
A short while ago, I shared a link to a documentary about Taiwan and China and their volatile relationship. It's important that we understand this inasmuch as Donald Trump has touched a nerve by just talking to a Taiwanese official. I asked a friend who was born on Taiwan and served in their military before emigrating to the U.S., to comment on this video, to learn how much of it, from his perspective, was true. He agreed to allow me to share his response...
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As far as the Chinese jet fighter j10, one has to know what is the percentage of it is made in China and is it using Chinese made engine even though it is advertised that it is made in China. There is a news last year bats was suck in the engine and it down the plane. So, is it a 24 hour jet fighter? or is it usable during the late afternoon when the bats are flying out of their nest by the thousands? A recent news about a woman pilot when she eject due to engine problem was killed by another j10 during a training session. My assessment is that their tactical formation is not mature enough to prevent killing pilots in emergency situations.
As far as invisibility of the fighter jet, they got it from a down f22. When the US bomb the Chinese embassy a few years back it did not penetrate deep enough to destroy the f22 parts in the deep basement. It killed 3 people which damage the Chinese spy network in Europe as we know that spy is operated in a one to one reporting structure. Chinese also get the super unman technology including early invisibility from a down US airplane in the 1974. The Chinese claim their aerospace technology advance 10 years by reverse engine the down US intelligent plane in southern China a few years back.
As far as submarine, I remember during the cold war, US laid sensors all over the sea bottom to sense the Soviet submarines. I question that our intelligent can not detect the Chinese submarine. I have not heard Chinese submarine about going under the ice in North pole. So the coverage of their submarine is questionable. I think the media make this kind of video is trying to make Chinese complaisant.
As far as the aircraft carrier, the US start building them since 1922. With all of the years of operating them with sinking all of the Japanese aircraft carrier to the current super nuclear powered aircraft carrier. The cumulated experience of all of the operating and tactical formation of the fleet is tremendous. Chinese bought a used aircraft carrier and just start trying it but they have not build their own yet even though rumor said they are in the process building one. By the size of the building where they build it, it is going to be maybe a diesel engine small aircraft carrier.
Mainland is trying to do Economic warfare with Taiwanese. The current statistics shows the Taiwanese economy about 60% depends on the tourist and produce export to China. Taiwan is like a large aircraft carrier right outside of China, the US will never give it up. On top of the weapon sells income from the country every year.
Taiwan has its own internal problem. After world war 2, there is 600,000 Japanese who do not want to go back to Japan. The Taiwanese is kind enough to take them in. These 600,000 become 3,000,000 now a days and they spread all levels in the society. These people is the major force that want to make Taiwan independent. In other words: two China. The KMD is not in power at this time. KMD claimed one China but just do not control the majority of the country only Taiwan.
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Here is the link to the video on which he was commenting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq79yiIszyY
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what I do understand is the good relationship We had with the Republic of China, (Taiwan) prior to Nixon and His contact with Mainland China. This picture is Me with General Chen I Fan, Commander in Chief of the Chinese Air Force in 1972 taken at CAF Headquarters in Taiwan. I was on an exchange program with the Chinese Air Force. I talked with General Chen about two hours. A USAF Colonel I met at the American Embassy after the US established Diplomatic ties with Mainland People's Republic of China and a few years later reduced the Democratic ROC, Taiwan to a trade Mission, that USAF Colonel that was Chinese born was so upset He killed Himself. Taiwan never deserved that poor treatment in favor of a Communist Country. There was a constant warlike alert from Taiwan with the constant Military threat from Mainland China who claimed they were the only China and it seems We yielded to that pressure and did what mainland China wanted made the other China call themselves Taiwan instead of the Republic of China. Captain Durish, I'm sure Your friend from Taiwan had views that were not in conflict with what I've said. I also remember How Senator Barry Goldwater, R, Arizona was so upset that this had been done to ROC, Taiwan. Senator Goldwater was also a Major General in the Air Force Reserve. I agree with the late Senator Goldwater, this was wrong and not the way to treat Your friends in a Democratic country that was friendly to the United States. Perhaps this will be corrected or are We going to continue to let a Communist nation dictate policy to us and Taiwan ?
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As Trump is not currently a U.S. official of any sort (yet), the call itself isn't really the problem. A problem may surface after he takes office, if he does not adhere to the "One China" policy. Acceptance of that policy is a precondition to any relations or negotiations with China. They will not concede this point under any circumstances.
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CPT Jack Durish
You are correct, but is that a good thing? Should we allow China to dictate our relations with Taiwan? Should we allow the Arabs to dictate where we place our embassy in Israel? Of course, diplomacy requires that we speak and act with full cognizance of the consequences of what we say and do, and be prepared to accept those consequences. Some are worth it. Some are not. Personally, I would prefer that the U.S. develop better relations with Russia and India, which would greatly reduce the scope of those consequences in relation to China. Just as Nixon opened the door to China to counter the USSR, we may now use India and Russia as counterbalances to China.
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SGT David T.
CPT Jack Durish - Taiwan is a touchy subject to China. Since we have an economic interdependence with them, we must deal with them on their terms. I'll use an analogy to illustrate this.
How would our government view the Chinese government having official relations outside of the Federal government with Alabama? I am pretty sure the Feds would be livid over it as the Feds view Alabama as being part of this country.
China views Taiwan much the same way. They never relinquished their sovereignty claims over the island. Even Taiwan follows the One China policy despite neither them of the mainland government agreeing on what that means. So from China's perspective, they are no different than Alabama is to us.
So to answer your question on if we should allow China to dictate our relations with Taiwan, the answer is yes because we accepted the One China policy when we opened the door. We cannot view the placement of our embassy in Israel in the same way and as such isn't relevant to this post.
How would our government view the Chinese government having official relations outside of the Federal government with Alabama? I am pretty sure the Feds would be livid over it as the Feds view Alabama as being part of this country.
China views Taiwan much the same way. They never relinquished their sovereignty claims over the island. Even Taiwan follows the One China policy despite neither them of the mainland government agreeing on what that means. So from China's perspective, they are no different than Alabama is to us.
So to answer your question on if we should allow China to dictate our relations with Taiwan, the answer is yes because we accepted the One China policy when we opened the door. We cannot view the placement of our embassy in Israel in the same way and as such isn't relevant to this post.
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CPT Jack Durish
SGT David T. - Your point of view holds up only so long as we accept the One China policy. Keep in mind that it wasn't created for economic interdependence. It was established by Nixon to counterbalance China against Russia. China and Russia share a common border and there has always been tension along it. Russia's Siberian region is full of natural resources that China desperately needs and short of Russian population. We could just as easily now side with the Russians as China has ascended to become the greater threat. China would then have to deal with the problem of access to American markets. Without that access, China's recent economic gains go away. Thus, China needs US more than US needs China.
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I understand what is going on and have done more studying on it. China could not take Taiwan by force so they just used a pen to make it theirs (sound familiar?). Taiwan was never defeated and I believe have the right to be recognized as their own nation.
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