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There is no shortage of analogies to be found between the book 1984 and today's world, with it's alternative facts and other newspeak. The two minute hate was a way to ensure the enemies of the state, also became the enemies of the people. These protests are an effort by people to get the state to stop treating refugees, Muslims, the environment and women's rights as the enemy.
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
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Help me out here.
What is "cult-like" about our education system?
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SPC Kevin Ford - Well again depending on the state, there was testing way before NCLB. The state of KY instituted state wide assessment testing in 1990 with KERA. Indiana has had ISTEPS testing, California has had CATS. So testing has been around long before the federal government messed it up. In KY the original KERA testing was mainly fact based testing, so you could not teach to the actual test, but later they got the bright idea to make it critical thinking and went to open ended questions. Sounds like a great idea but you can teach on how to take an open ended questions by just teaching them the steps and hope they can B.S. their way thru it. Now I have heard KY has now gone back to the original test.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SSG (Join to see) - NCLB didn't introduce standardized testing, it was still state by state. If the test was changed to mess it up, it was the state's doing. The problems with. NCLB came with concepts like AYP where schools had to show continual improvement until 100% of the kids could pass the tests, an unattainable pipe dream.
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I mentioned that in an earlier post, that NCLB had major flaws, but schools were allowed to design their own methods to show improvement so to say that NCLB was what caused teach to the test is actually false. Plus a state did not have to follow NCLB if it did not want to. As stated previously the federal government can have a good idea but still muck it up until it is useless.
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SPC Kevin Ford
SPC Kevin Ford
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SSG (Join to see) - No NCLB didn't introduce teaching to the test, it just created a situation where it was much more common. Fact based tests can be taught to just as easily as any other.

States being able to opt out of NCLB without loosing federal funding was an Obama thing. He essentially fixed NCLB by changing most of the key provisions to remove the teeth. Prior to 2011 that was not the case and it wan't optional for any school that received federal funding (which is most if not all public schools).
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PO1 Kerry French
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And of George Soros is money in all the various organizations he funds
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
SSG Michael Hartsfield
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What does that have to do with the topic?
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PO1 Kerry French
PO1 Kerry French
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SSG Michael Hartsfield - The topic is riot prone mods are a product of Americans cultlike education system and also all the money that George Soros is putting into the various organizations for open borders and all the other chaos causing groups he funds
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
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PO1 Kerry French - Now what does George Soros's money have to do with the "cult-like" education system? This article makes absolutely no mention of Soros in any context. Let's try to make your comments a little more relative, k?
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