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PO2 Robert Aitchison
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IMO Harley-Davidson has fallen victim to resting on their laurels. They have for years relied on people spending quite a lot of money on their bikes (and of course their branded merchandise) just based off their name and the fact that they are the only large bike maker in the U.S.

They haven't put enough R&D into making their bikes better or making entirely new bike models that would appeal to younger riders.
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PO2 Robert Aitchison
PO2 Robert Aitchison
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Maj Marty Hogan - I understand the oil/air cooling is an improvement but I'm looking for a proper water cooled bike. Compare the "new" Milwaukee 8 engines with the big twin in the Suzuki Boulevard M109R, (which is not a very new engine) 127HP and 118 lb-ft driving the rear wheel via a shaft. My first bike was a 1987 Intruder and it was water cooled and shaft driven as well.

To be fair H-D isn't the only one doing this Yamaha's new competition for the Road Glide Ultra is also oil/air cooled and belt driven but I suspect that may be because it's a bike being marketed to people who are shopping against a Road Glide Ultra. Of course If I were in the market for a bike in that class I'd just get a Goldwing/Barcolounger.
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Maj Marty Hogan
Maj Marty Hogan
7 y
SPC Johnney Abbott - that is spot on
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SSG Thomas Werstlein
SSG Thomas Werstlein
7 y
PO2 Robert Aitchison - Have you looked at Kawasaki's Vulcan Voyager 1700? Another competitive entry in the touring class that doesn't vibrate your kidneys to mush. I've had mine for 5 years now and love how it performs and handles.
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PO2 Robert Aitchison
PO2 Robert Aitchison
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SSG Thomas Werstlein - Thanks but I'm pretty happy with my FJR, it's nimble enough to be tons of fun in the twisties (of which there are many here) and eats miles like they are Wheaties.
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CW4 Angel C.
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Yeah that's not good but on a good note at least HD still producing bikes. Victory (also American made cruisers) stopped their production last year without warning. I've been looking for another bike so I'm going HD from now on. HD will continue to be America's favorite bike for years to come.
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CW4 Angel C.
CW4 Angel C.
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True. Indians look and ride good but now Polaris planted that doubt in my mind. I've had my Victory for 10 strong years now it's extinct lol Who knows maybe in another 10-15 years it may be worth something.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
PO3 Steven Sherrill
7 y
MSgt Robert C Aldi - CW4 Angel C. Msgt Aldi is right Chief, Polaris owns both Victory and Indian. They decided to cease production of the Victory line in order to focus on the Indian line.
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Capt Jeff S.
Capt Jeff S.
7 y
Never could get into Victory's styling. Test drove one and wasn't impressed. It was okay, but didn't feel like a Harley... For some folks, that might be a good thing, but I like the ergonomics of the Harley better and the way it eats up the open road. They aren't the best turning bikes; they were made to conquer the highway.
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SFC Malcolm Haugen
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I think the new competition from Indian is making a big hit on Harley. I switched two years ago.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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TSgt Tommy Amparano
TSgt Tommy Amparano
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I love my Harley, but I love my Indian too.
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TSgt Tommy Amparano
TSgt Tommy Amparano
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PV2 Larry Sellnow - Better to keep both so you have a spare.
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