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Your post lacks context. The Bible explains slavery and some sold themsleves as slaves. Some might understand that as condoning slavery. I suppose, if you only focus on the word slave and not the historical contex, one might make an arguement that the G-d of the Bible is evil, or condones evil.
M. Morris RVT
Your post lacks context. The Bible explains slavery and some sold themsleves as slaves. Some might understand that as condoning slavery. I suppose, if you only focus on the word slave and not the historical contex, one might make an arguement that the G-d of the Bible is evil, or condones evil.
M. Morris RVT
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Cpl Mark A. Morris There is one simple question that addresses this. Do you believe that owning another human being is moral?
I'll be surprised if you answer it, since you're trying to justify slavery in the Bible, but it is really that simple.
I'll be surprised if you answer it, since you're trying to justify slavery in the Bible, but it is really that simple.
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Cpl Mark A. Morris
Capt Gregory Prickett - No. I am not trying to justify slavery in the Bible.
You are not thinking deep enough.
The fallen Angels and man turned their backs on G-d's laws. The existence of man during the time of the Bible was not perfect.
G-d came to live inside it's creation to be a sacrifice for human sin. In the near future, G-d will rule heaven and Earth getting rid of slavery.
Now, I know you do not believe that. But, to me, man created slavery. Not G-d. Man's evil on this Earth will end.
Cheers,
M. Morris RVT
You are not thinking deep enough.
The fallen Angels and man turned their backs on G-d's laws. The existence of man during the time of the Bible was not perfect.
G-d came to live inside it's creation to be a sacrifice for human sin. In the near future, G-d will rule heaven and Earth getting rid of slavery.
Now, I know you do not believe that. But, to me, man created slavery. Not G-d. Man's evil on this Earth will end.
Cheers,
M. Morris RVT
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Cpl Mark A. Morris - what, god was strong enough to tell people not to eat shrimp, but he was too weak to say don't own people?
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Cpl Mark A. Morris
I'm not to aware of Jewish diet laws. Somehow, some creatures are unclean. G-d did tell man how to treat slaves.
I try to focus on the word made flesh and G-d's love for his creation. Even though we have brought this world system on ourselves.
I know you do not believe in a all Knowing creator G-d. But, I hope you find a way to open your heart and seek out what you think does not exist. It took over 3 years for me.
M. Morris RVT
I try to focus on the word made flesh and G-d's love for his creation. Even though we have brought this world system on ourselves.
I know you do not believe in a all Knowing creator G-d. But, I hope you find a way to open your heart and seek out what you think does not exist. It took over 3 years for me.
M. Morris RVT
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well, in ancient times slavery was an intrinsic part of culture. The vanquished were made slaves to the victors was generally acceptable until well into the Renaissance.
Slaves AKA vassals could be treated well or ruthlessly depending on variable like culture and skills of the slaves.
Slavery is recorded in the Bible since the Bible provides a historical record of sorts Capt Gregory Prickett.
In the view of modern man all slavery is evil. Yet slavery is alive and well or festering more accurately in the sex slave trade and in many conservative Muslim-majority nations - there indentured servants may well be life-long slaves, sadly.
Slaves AKA vassals could be treated well or ruthlessly depending on variable like culture and skills of the slaves.
Slavery is recorded in the Bible since the Bible provides a historical record of sorts Capt Gregory Prickett.
In the view of modern man all slavery is evil. Yet slavery is alive and well or festering more accurately in the sex slave trade and in many conservative Muslim-majority nations - there indentured servants may well be life-long slaves, sadly.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
LTC Stephen F. - sir, if you don't believe that slavery is immoral, on its face, then nothing I can say will explain it to you. As for Islam approving slavery? It does, and it is just as immoral for that religion to approve of it as it was for the Bible to approve of it. That's because slavery causes harm to other human beings. It exploits and degrades human beings. It justifies the use of force or the threat of force against others.
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LTC Stephen F.
Capt Gregory Prickett - I am not discussing the basis for my morality which is fixed and transcends the laws of man -which vary and change. I don't pretend to understand God completely. However I learned to acknowledge God after fighting against HIM for decades :-)
I don't view slavery as moral or induced abortion for that matter.
I do view "just war" as moral.
However, I recognize that in many cultures those practices are legal.
Legal does not always equate to moral.
I think you are an atheist or agnostic which is why I am asking you what is the basis for your views on morality.
Do you have thoughts on this discussion you would be willing to share? LTC John Shaw COL Mikel J. Burroughs CPT Jack Durish PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
I don't view slavery as moral or induced abortion for that matter.
I do view "just war" as moral.
However, I recognize that in many cultures those practices are legal.
Legal does not always equate to moral.
I think you are an atheist or agnostic which is why I am asking you what is the basis for your views on morality.
Do you have thoughts on this discussion you would be willing to share? LTC John Shaw COL Mikel J. Burroughs CPT Jack Durish PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
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LTC Stephen F.
SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" - Sudan has long-practiced slavery usually using what used to be south Sudan tribal groups as slaves; Saudi Arabia and Maldives practice slavery in many forms and wherever ISIS is in control slavery.
The sex slave trade is against the law in many nations but unfortunately it seems to be worldwide. We have cases of sex slave trade arrests in northern Virginia in the past few years. There is a regional task force working to combat it [MD, VA and DC].
The sex slave trade is against the law in many nations but unfortunately it seems to be worldwide. We have cases of sex slave trade arrests in northern Virginia in the past few years. There is a regional task force working to combat it [MD, VA and DC].
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Capt Gregory Prickett
LTC Stephen F. - I'm an agnostic atheist (those are two different issues, knowledge and belief in a god(s)). As to my morality? I use secular morality, which is superior to religious morality in general and Biblical morality in particular.
You stated that you don't view slavery as moral, but both the Old and New Testaments condone slavery. The Old Testament goes into detail where you should obtain your slaves, how to trick your male Hebrew slaves into become your property forever. If you view the Bible and god as the source of your morality, how do you justify the difference between the two?
You stated that you don't view slavery as moral, but both the Old and New Testaments condone slavery. The Old Testament goes into detail where you should obtain your slaves, how to trick your male Hebrew slaves into become your property forever. If you view the Bible and god as the source of your morality, how do you justify the difference between the two?
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