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SPC David Willis
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We do it to ourselves as well. We wear dysfunctional veteran shirts and talk shit about college kids not knowing what we went through, like no shit brother we signed up so they wouldn't have to know. We harass folks in public that we SUSPECT are stealing valor and post in on Facebook, well when people see this in public Id imagine half the time they don't even know what stolen valor is and think we just enjoy talking shit to each other in the most egregious ways. We get into bar fights, berate people who think different than us online and claim that civilians don't get to have an opinion cuz they "didn't fight for their country" and even if we think to ourselves "what a tool" we don't confront them and stick up for people who are exercising their 1A rights. I tried this on a Facebook post onetime and stuck up for a civilian against this vet a little younger than me and you'd of have thought I just slapped his mother the outrage that came from him and his friends was shocking to be directed at a "brother in arms". A civilian friend of mine was threatened by a veteran in person because of his viewpoint on the war I finally decided to stop the argument cuz I was getting hot by this "combat vets" actions and come to find out he was some POG that had never left the base. Now there is absolutely a disconnect that originates from the civilians, but I believe that while in the Vietnam era the blame was on the citizens, I think this generation has taken a good amount of good will and slowly started to erode it with our actions, not entirely on us but more so than any other time in the past.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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Thank you for sharing that, SPC. We have lost what should bind us, that patriotism of years past, a togetherness and philosophy of teamwork. the American culture has been compromised but is poised for a comeback! I was angry when I returned from Iraq because I perceived that no one knew or cared that there was a war going on. Then it struck me, that's why we do what we do, so that folks back home can go about their daily lives without worrying about getting blown up or shot at. We need to take personal responsibility for our words and actions. Parent teach their children, but schools indoctrinate children. If a kid is never exposed to patriotism or military or taught the Great American Story, then they are ripe for the Alt-Left, who are anti-military, anti-American.
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A1C Ian Williams
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Very good topic MAJ Montgomery Granger we need to broaden our horizons when we think of the ideal soldier/airman/seamen/marine. There are large untapped demographics that 1)love this country 2)will fight for this country 3)need their country and 4) are actually overqualified for most of the jobs that are currently unmanned.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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Yes! And the 1SG had good points as well. We don't teach the American culture anymore. It's all about "global" this and "global" that. When I was in elementary school every Friday was Assembly Day. All the classes would march (walk in lines) out to the flag pole in the middle of the quad and have a flag raising, sing the national anthem and a bunch of patriotic songs (by heart!), and then have announcements, awards, news, etc. Maybe fifteen minutes or so. It gave us a sense of togetherness as American citizens. We are so missing that. That is the bedrock of patriotism. From that, you get some who are military naturals.
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