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SGT Michael Thorin
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This should be of GREAT concern to all nations. The Taliban and ISIS as a whole believe in the 7 Pillars of Islam, not the 5.

In that belief is a deep disdain for those who do not believe in Allah unto the point of forcefully making those swear their faith an allegiance to Allah, enslave those who don’t, or in many cases to execute those who don’t.

They will gladly give their lives for their faith, and they KNOW their faith.

The 7 Pillars of Islam have the original 5 Pillars, and the edition of 2 other Pillars which were entrusted to Muhammad, those of the “Jizya” (a tax on non-Muslims) and “Jihad” (the struggle or fight against the enemies of Islam).

Typically, these are referred to “Muslim Extremists”, which by shear definition, they are simply Muslim in that they are practicing Islam as the prophet Muhammad had practiced Islam, as he received the messages from Gabriel.

That being said, I see something in our Nation that scares me; true allegiance and care for our Country in our youth. We don’t enjoy the spirit of patriotism as when we were young.

When you put a group of people who do not necessarily believe completely in their cause against a force that not only is so completely bought into their cause because from the day of their birth they are immersed in it, and who see real war and death all day; but now also have solid TACOPS and training (with instructors who can literally beat you into submission, you have what I call a possible tie-breaker.

I hope this has not offended anyone. I’ve done my best to make my point without stepping on toes, but it is impossible for me to bring up this opinion without also mentioning the Islamic faith.

It is important to make the factual point that not all Islamists believe in this “radical Islam.” They hold to the original 5 Pillars of Islam which they believe preaches peace. Contrary to what I used to believe and what some still believe; the Muslim faith is no more dangerous today than our Christian Ancestors who took the word of God and twisted a few verses to burn witches and conquer nations.

We all have our horrible pasts, and the fault is always that of man and our desire to justify what we do instead of doing what is just.

If the words “Islam”, Muslim”, “Muhammad”, “Allah”, or any words which make you think about the Islamic fate, make you feel hate, anger or vengeance as a Christian, I beg you to go back to the scripture and look at the life of Christ and realize that those very feelings toward anyone is not how Christ expects us feel.

Now, my conscience is clear, LOL. I did a great deal of personal study on Islam instead of trying to watch either agencies wanting to make it all look great and safe and those that desire to make you believe Muslims are evil. I studied because I believed that to fight your enemy, you must know your enemy. So a few weeks before my deployment, I started studying. Bought several books, and bought the most accurate English translation Quran that I could find.i wanted knowledge.

They are men following their beliefs, and for my Christian friends (who are going to hate this), you are no better or worse than them. In their eyes, we are simply men following our beliefs. In their minds they are right, and in our minds we are right (for the record, i know I’m right, LOL.).

Here is the difference for Christians that should forever make you feel and act differently towards not only Muslims, but any other faith, race, nationality, gender, color, etc. etc.:

“John 3:16 KJVS
[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Understand that the sacrifice of Christ is non-discriminatory. So regardless on how you justify your feelings, until the day they die, they are exactly as you are: simply a sinner in need of salvation. This is how God sees us.

All that being said and to get back on track: it should be absolutely disturbing for us to think of how dangerous they can be when they not only train be better warriors, but now also how to be organized in their tactics. Key note is that many have been trained by our soldiers under the guise of Pakistani military, and then have left, taking this knowledge back to the Taliban.

If I had to guess at how they became organized and develop these training programs, my immediate answer is that we trained them.

I simply pray that we trained the Pakistani soldiers better.

I want to close with this General George S. Patton (Original quote recorded from General Patton by LT. General James M. Gavin after an address to the troops):

“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.”

COL Mikel J. Burroughs,Lt Col Charlie Brown,SPC Mark Brown,SP5 Mark Kuzinski,SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL,LTC Stephen F.,LTC Jeff Shearer,SSgt Robert Marx,Maj Marty Hogan,SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth,SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Thank you for the mention Michael, have a great evening.
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SGT Michael Thorin
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GySgt John Olson, LOL. Those who know me on here aren’t thinking of me as a heretic. They know where my heart is.

However, I will proudly proclaim the title of court jester!
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SGT Michael Thorin
SGT Michael Thorin
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LOL
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Cpl Mark A. Morris
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LTC,
It takes money to train. I suspect, we are already trying to stop the flow of support.
The Taliban are practicing what they preach. Sunni Islam right? So, Iran would not be helping the. Perhaps, Pakistan using the money we send them?
What are your thoughts on this issue Sir?
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LTC Eric Udouj
LTC Eric Udouj
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Cpl Mark A. Morris - We have removed a lot of individuals fro the leadership... and the effect has been... better leadership. Using CT tactics against a group instead of a cell does not work... you have to hit the group along its fracture lines... and we have as of yet fractured the ISI link in any way that changes it. Does make one think..
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Cpl Mark A. Morris
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LTC Eric Udouj - Crictial thinking tactics (CT)? Fracture lines?
America fights and wins using a command and control that is felxable in physical war. Would you agree Sir? How does a military fight an ideology? The yell, Allah Akbar is not G-d is Great. It is my god is greatest. That means, greatest god of the Kaaba.
As you are aware, we are not fighting the religion of peace. We are fighting the religion/political system of submission. Is that fundamental understanding inside our CT groups? If not, how can we ever ID the enemy?
Terrorism, or Islamic terrorim? The term terrorism is used to not upset those not enguaged within the Ummah to physically attack a target. But, their forced monies to charity helps our enemies in the field. Both houses of Islam.
Fracture lines: Known supporters could be killed, jailed, fined, imprisoned and deported. It has been reported an Imam has put out a hit on Tommy who has been sent to jail in England for being a voice against the enemy of western culture. That Imam needs to be made an example of. Then, roll up every known individual and group that support Islamic war on us.
I will stop here. I suspect, my points within my post will not be what the PC New Age wants to do. Perhpas, General Mattis, and Kelly will move forward America's might in a manner that destroys the enemy. I think they have been for several months.
Have a good day LTC.
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LTC Eric Udouj
LTC Eric Udouj
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After many years in this war... a conventional approach to it and a focus on holding terrain instead of pursuit of not only the actual enemy forces but in a constant harassment of every level of there establishment from the fielded force to the support structure.... to disrupt the ability to operate...... and yet that still requires the item we have not done as of yet.. to attack the ideology. Countering is not offensive - it is defensive.. and if we want to win in this fight.. we have to do far more than we are structured to be able to do right now.
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Cpl Mark A. Morris
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Well written Sir.
Thank you for your post.
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SSG Medically Retired
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But if we go vaporize those camps then we're the bad guys for trying to cut the heads off the hydra..
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