Despite Previous Rosy Outlook, ISIS Remains A Problem

ISIS, the so-called Islamic State, no longer has a capital or much to call a state. But what they do have is up to 30,000 fighters. They're spread between Syria and Iraq. And a report by the United Nations containing that figure of 30,000 comes despite Iraqi official claims that ISIS is defeated there and President Trump's statements that ISIS is almost finished in Syria. NPR's Tom Bowman has more.