Posted on May 17, 2019
New York Fire Department turns down decorated Navy SEAL - CNN Video
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A 37-year-old US Navy SEAL who's served four combat tours was rejected by the New York City Fire Department for being too old. Now other fire departments across the country have reached out to let him know he's welcome
New York Fire Department turns down decorated Navy SEAL - CNN Video
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Navy SEALs
New York City
Firefighting
Posted 5 y ago
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Never too old to continue your service to your country, or community.
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MAJ Ken Landgren respectfully, lots of physically demanding jobs have age limits for joining. Examples include, but aren’t limited to, every branch of the military, including the Army and Navy. Additionally, some units within the military, like the SEALs, have an age limit for joining their ranks. Waivers are optional, but not mandatory.
I’m might be in the minority on this one, but I don’t necessarily have a problem with this.
I’m might be in the minority on this one, but I don’t necessarily have a problem with this.
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CDR Dan Cunningham
SGT (Join to see) - If you read the story, he was six months and 25 days outside the age limit, yet he paid to travel to NY twice to take the tests. It wasn't until he'd already racked up quite a bit in expenses, and aced both written/physical tests, that he was informed about the age issue. He will get a job with a better FD, and it'll be NY's loss.
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CDR Dan Cunningham - I did check out the story. That’s why I’m comfortable not really having a problem with an individual who doesn’t meet the age requirements being disqualified for being too old.
He spent a lot of money, only to find out he probably wasted his money?
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/fdny/jobs/career-paths/firefighter-eligibility-requirements.page
A simple google search and maybe a follow up phone call could have nipped that nonsense in the bud before it ever became an issue.
The “I didn’t know I couldn’t do that” defense is rarely successful. Ignorance of the rules doesn’t insulate an individual from the consequences of ignorantly breaking the rules.
Going on CNN because he didn’t get his way probably won’t help his case with FDNY, either. I don’t wish ill will on the guy; quite the opposite, actually. I’m sure he’ll land on his feet somewhere. But I don’t really have a problem with an agency upholding the standards. (One reason standards slip is when you start making exceptions. ‘But he’s awesome!’ Ok. He might be. The next guy will be less awesome. Etc, etc. and eventually, you’ll have a new, lower standard).
He spent a lot of money, only to find out he probably wasted his money?
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/fdny/jobs/career-paths/firefighter-eligibility-requirements.page
A simple google search and maybe a follow up phone call could have nipped that nonsense in the bud before it ever became an issue.
The “I didn’t know I couldn’t do that” defense is rarely successful. Ignorance of the rules doesn’t insulate an individual from the consequences of ignorantly breaking the rules.
Going on CNN because he didn’t get his way probably won’t help his case with FDNY, either. I don’t wish ill will on the guy; quite the opposite, actually. I’m sure he’ll land on his feet somewhere. But I don’t really have a problem with an agency upholding the standards. (One reason standards slip is when you start making exceptions. ‘But he’s awesome!’ Ok. He might be. The next guy will be less awesome. Etc, etc. and eventually, you’ll have a new, lower standard).
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No surprise. During the Clinton administration's DOD drawdown, after 12 years of active duty army, at 38 years old, I was pretty much forced to resign from active duty. (I joined the Utah National Guard and served another 12 years, but that is another story.) I was fit, experienced, and ready to serve in another agency. I applied to Dept. of State, Border Patrol, DEA, Customs, BLM, US Forest Service, local law enforcement agencies, and not one of them would hire me because I was too old. Thanks veterans, but you're too old to hire in our agency.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
MAJ Matthew Arnold Same Reason I was Laid Off by Sprint during the Bush Jr Administration.
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