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SSG Michael Noll
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Great share brother thanks
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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Great read this morning SGT (Join to see)
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Cpl Jeff N.
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Only the historically ignorant of the outright manipulators of historical facts can deny there is a right for the citizenry to be armed and to protect themselves, their family, neighbors etc. The only reason a "militia" could be raised was because all of the citizens were armed. It was not the other way around. The "government" did not arm the citizens to form a militia. The citizens had the arms to protect themselves, their families, friends, neighbors and towns already.

All truly free citizens have the right to self defense and protection from harm and the ability, should it become necessary, to get rid of a tyrannical government as outlined in the Declaration of Independence. This right to protect the citizens from a tyrannical government is in our organic documents and the reason the rebellion from England was started.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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SGT Edward Wilcox - The two documents do very different things. That does not mean that one did not affect the other. The Continental Congress responsible for drafting the Constitution had lived through the war with England and was very aware of the tyranny of the crown and the fact that citizens who were armed formed the militia.

Those that wrote the declaration knew they were putting their lives at risk. They even said so. "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor".

Of the 56 signers, Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. This was not some peaceful document they wrote. They knew the risks and accepted them and some paid the full measure.

Those at the Constitutional convention lived through those times. They knew the cost of a tyrannical government. They knew the value of an armed populace that could, if needed, form a militia. Those experiences guided the writing of the Constitution and ultimately the Bill of Rights.

It is true, there was not a large standing Army and Navy but where are you getting the notion that there was a concern that the new American government was going to disarm the citizenry? Let's assume for a moment that notion is correct. The citizenry is still the militia and the founders did not want the government having any ability to disarm the citizenry. Remember, the view point of our rights is that they are given by God, not the government.
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SGT Edward Wilcox
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Cpl Jeff N. Read The Federalist Papers, #46. Then get back to me.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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I've read all of the federalist papers more than once, I have a book with them in it. I explained clearly and succinctly where you were wrong. You have no counter argument other than to tell me to read something I have read and considered before.
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SGT Edward Wilcox
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Cpl Jeff N. - You have explained nothing, except your obsession with the word 'tyranny'. If you have actually read the Federalist Papers, then why won't you speak specifically to my point? I don't think you can.
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