Posted on Oct 2, 2019
Mentally ill killer of five people in Calgary can be eased into community: board
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I'm not sure this would go ahead in the USA or would it? Everything it seems in the USA is going upside down so maybe this is the trend to the Kinder gentler approach by Progressive Mental Health Providers and the state enabling some freedoms to a mentally ill person?
Recently, a man who decapitated somebody on a bus in Edmonton a decade ago has been released into society. Like I said, Canada is The Proving Ground for Liberal ideas. Carbon taxes are not working in Canada and three provinces are going to the Supreme Court to stop though they're trying to push it in the USA on all fronts including the green New Deal, but I'm wondering if this kind of soft approach by Canada in letting somebody who appeared possessed and who killed five innocent people back into society is the best for society?
Recently, a man who decapitated somebody on a bus in Edmonton a decade ago has been released into society. Like I said, Canada is The Proving Ground for Liberal ideas. Carbon taxes are not working in Canada and three provinces are going to the Supreme Court to stop though they're trying to push it in the USA on all fronts including the green New Deal, but I'm wondering if this kind of soft approach by Canada in letting somebody who appeared possessed and who killed five innocent people back into society is the best for society?
Mentally ill killer of five people in Calgary can be eased into community: board
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As Americans, lately we seem to send our mentally ill to Congress instead of the community.
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LTC Stephen Conway
It's not the first time! I just realized that the man was released from prison after decapitating someone in the back of a bus was released two years ago!
https://globalnews.ca/news/3242308/man-who-beheaded-greyhound-bus-passenger-granted-full-discharge/
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https://globalnews.ca/news/3242308/man-who-beheaded-greyhound-bus-passenger-granted-full-discharge/
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Man who beheaded Greyhound bus passenger granted full discharge
Vince Li, who now goes by Will Baker, was granted full discharge Friday afternoon. Baker was found not criminally responsible (NCR) for killing Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus in 2008.
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LTC Stephen Conway
Man who beheaded Greyhound bus passenger granted full discharge
Vince Li, who now goes by Will Baker, was granted full discharge Friday afternoon. Baker was found not criminally responsible (NCR) for killing Tim McLean on a Greyhound bus in 2008.
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Well first the Democrats would have him run for the Texas Senate, then for President. As long as he has a telegenic personality that is all that matters. Criminal records not withstanding. Just look at BETO's rap sheet. DUI, Burgulary and a charge of insider trading which Nancy Pelosi let him off the hook for. BETO Just had to express remorse for the first two and exclaim he had no idea insider trading was illegal for the third and he got his pass.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SGT (Join to see) - Actually two items wrong with BETO's excuse that he did not know. Stock Brokers do not buy stock without at least general direction by their clients and tacit approval. Second he was told previous the practice was considered against ethics (and quite honestly this is public knowledge he shouldn't have to be told). He states he never got the letter even though he has a Congressional Staff. So not only did he not get the letter his staff never told him about it either? Too much implausibility in his excuse, in my view. I am under a similar law working for a regulator. I cannot use the same excuse BETO used and get off the hook. Last he only acted after someone exposed the whole situation to himself and there was an implicit threat they would go public (news reporter).
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respectfully, do you have a broker? Authorized to buy/sell/trade for your account? Yeah, to say that every client knows about every particular trade is nonsense. It’s simply not true.
He was a freshman Representative and what he did was perfectly legal for non-congressmen. Is it possible he missed the memo on he rule he wasn’t familiar with at a new job? Um...yes. It’s also possible that he got 10000 memos that week and did what most people do with memos. Not read it.
Who knows. When it was discovered, he fully complied, sold off all IPO stocks, and gave all profits from those stocks to the treasury. The House ethics Committee was satisfied with the result.
Now...here’s where your characterization of the situation is a bit off the rails. You stated that Pelosi gave him a pass. This occurred in November 2013. Republicans controlled House. She didn’t have a pass to give.
He was a freshman Representative and what he did was perfectly legal for non-congressmen. Is it possible he missed the memo on he rule he wasn’t familiar with at a new job? Um...yes. It’s also possible that he got 10000 memos that week and did what most people do with memos. Not read it.
Who knows. When it was discovered, he fully complied, sold off all IPO stocks, and gave all profits from those stocks to the treasury. The House ethics Committee was satisfied with the result.
Now...here’s where your characterization of the situation is a bit off the rails. You stated that Pelosi gave him a pass. This occurred in November 2013. Republicans controlled House. She didn’t have a pass to give.
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SPC Erich Guenther
SGT (Join to see) - From what I understand he bought a pre-IPO not available generally to the public but available to subscribers that are part of the underwriting firm. He did not buy an IPO after it was sold to the public (it was TWITTER) regardless by SEC rules his Stock Broker has to have current registration of the client including SS number, financial income, name, investment objectives, etc. Which the Broker interrogates from the client the Broker does not just fill in that info by themselves. Broker has to keep that information current by SEC rules of investing so the SEC can investigate persons participating in various trades. The part of his excuse where he traded years or even months and months like this without contacting the Broker is likely bull crap. In regards to Pelosi, regardless of being Speaker or not, she is still the leader of the Democrats unless a new Speaker replaces her as leader of the Democrats in the House.
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yes, when you sign up with your broker, you give them all your information. And you generally sign paperwork that authorizes them to trade on your account. That way, they have the authority to do so, without getting your permission and signature for every single transaction. I have no idea what my broker did so far this week.
Twitter went public on November 7, 2013. IPO became available to the public that day at a price of $26. That’s the day he bought and sold some.
Again, I’ll sh*t on Beto all day. The ‘we’ll take your guns’ nonsense was gold, and guarantees that we’ll never have a President Beto. But on this particular subject, it’s far more likely that a rookie Congressman got lost in the rulebook and when made aware, fixed the problem appropriately.
See below the memo. The House was more upset that he didn’t let them know before his purchases, as directed by the memo.
https://ethics.house.gov/sites/ethics.house.gov/files/IPO%20pink%20sheet.pdf
Also, See below a decent write up of John Q Public can get IPO on release day.
https://money.usnews.com/investing/stock-market-news/articles/2018-06-14/how-can-i-buy-a-stock-at-its-ipo-price
Twitter went public on November 7, 2013. IPO became available to the public that day at a price of $26. That’s the day he bought and sold some.
Again, I’ll sh*t on Beto all day. The ‘we’ll take your guns’ nonsense was gold, and guarantees that we’ll never have a President Beto. But on this particular subject, it’s far more likely that a rookie Congressman got lost in the rulebook and when made aware, fixed the problem appropriately.
See below the memo. The House was more upset that he didn’t let them know before his purchases, as directed by the memo.
https://ethics.house.gov/sites/ethics.house.gov/files/IPO%20pink%20sheet.pdf
Also, See below a decent write up of John Q Public can get IPO on release day.
https://money.usnews.com/investing/stock-market-news/articles/2018-06-14/how-can-i-buy-a-stock-at-its-ipo-price
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