Posted on Nov 22, 2019
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This is why you train to shoot to stop the threat, not just a certain number of shots, ie: double tap or two to the body, one to the head.
Graphic: Why Officers Shoot Until the Threat Has Stopped
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Self Defense
Pistol Shooting
Firearms and Guns
Law Enforcement
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TSgt David L. Can't believe this officer kept backing up,when it was obvious that that only emboldened the perp.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SSgt Terry P. - That well may have been a huge factor and one reason some things have got out of control in these situations !
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TSgt David L.
SSgt Terry P. - I understand the hesitation since they are under a microscope for any action or lack thereof. Sad when politics can drive a critical decision like this.
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SFC Jim Ruether
I think with all the legal issues with a Police Officer Shooting he was hoping he wouldn't have to pull that trigger. His partner could of tased or shot him as he approached the other officer.........all in my humble opinion mind you.
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SSgt Terry P.
SFC Jim Ruether - That is very possible,Jim,IMO the same problem exist with young inexperienced military service members also.They are not sure when they should shoot in certain circumstances. It is a hard decision with all the scrutiny received,hindsight is always more clear than split seconds you have to make a decision during the event.
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After over 40 years of Law Enforcement I can't see handling that the way they did. it got to where it was by lack of control, I'm not impressed. I've never let an armed suspect cover that much ground and no its NOT because I shot them. I've taken guns, clubs tire irons and yes knives away from people usually they understood completely what I told them and I controlled the situation not them. I'm not impatient but that sort of retreat doesn't work in my experience. We were trained in unarmed defense against armed assaults, take downs etc. and very quickly (in seconds) handcuffing them behind their back. I never attempted to take anyone into custody and not succeed, I'm not little, 6'2" 195 but within seconds have taken a 350 lb violent assailant to the ground and the look of surprise someone half His size did that. Proper training was the key, without that I could not have done that and made My actions very quick and effective. Most of what I learned was from the Military however and it stayed with Me. There were two Officers they should have been able to team up to control the situation a lot better than they did. That's My opinion.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
TSgt David L. - I know one call I went on that the suspect had already cut another individual with a switch blade knife across the neck, i did use an alternative when He came after Me and My partner with that knife. With a nightstick I hit Him across His hand and broke all four of His fingers,only the thumb wasn't injured. He dropped the knife and was cuffed. He had broken fingers but He was still alive and could stand trial. He was one of five that jumped that guy, we got Him plus two, never even found out who the other two were. The victim had a 5 inch cut across His neck but it was surface and had a lot of blood but not much damage. That was only one of two times I'd actually struck anyone with the night stick in 40 years of Law Enforcement. In that case if I did't have the club More than likely I'd have shot Him. This was while I was still in the Air Force Security Police before becoming a civilian Police Officer.
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TSgt David L.
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - The baton/night stick seem like a pretty effective way to go non-lethal depending on the situation. We bought ASPs because there was a clip-on mirror attachment for "searching vehicles". I'm not sure that they were ever used for that but they were handy to have anyway.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
TSgt David L. - In My lifetime I'd only used that baton/nightstick twice on a person but was trained with it and knew how to use it.
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TSgt David L.
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter - They look pretty effective. That would be enough to subdue a perp.
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