Posted on Jul 9, 2021
Judge Blocks Biden Administration's Racist Farm Relief Plan
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Call this a win for equal rights under the law. I'm pretty sure that excluding someone from government programs based solely on their skin color is bad. Even when it excludes white people.
Judge Blocks Biden Administration's Racist Farm Relief Plan
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Let me see if I've got this straight.
(1) Black farmers were harmed by the US Government.
(2) White farmers were not harmed by the US government.
(3) The US government puts forward a relief plan to make the black farmers whole for the damage caused.
(4) People are saying it is racist to help the black farmers who were harmed, unless white farmers who were not harmed as also given an equal amount of relief, even though they were not harmed.
Does that sum the issue up?
(1) Black farmers were harmed by the US Government.
(2) White farmers were not harmed by the US government.
(3) The US government puts forward a relief plan to make the black farmers whole for the damage caused.
(4) People are saying it is racist to help the black farmers who were harmed, unless white farmers who were not harmed as also given an equal amount of relief, even though they were not harmed.
Does that sum the issue up?
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MSgt Steve Sweeney
Sgt (Join to see) - I see, so if the overall population dropped, but the percentage of one cohort dropped disproportionately to the overall population, what would that tell you, professor?
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Further showing that we would never put up with what we (the broad we, not us in particular) allowed to happen to people of color in this country.
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SPC Kevin Ford
Sgt (Join to see) - So yes, the federal government was the organization that caused the harm. Is your argument if the federal government causes the harm, they should not make the people who got harmed whole? So let's say they locked someone up unjustly for 30 years, your argument is the government should offer no restitution because it would be unfair to the people who were not unjustly locked up?
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SPC Kevin Ford -
Please explain this simple conundrum to me.
You seem to agree with the idea that government discrimination based on skin color is wrong.
Excluding one farmer from a federal loan program is okay strictly because he's white.
No matter what altruistic reasons you might come up with to justify it, you're looking to do the exact same thing to someone else who you say was wronged in the first place. Excluding blacks was bad. Now we're going to do it to white people. We just think we have a good reason to do it.
Using you're pointless anology above, a black guy gets unjustly locked up for 30 years, so now we're going to take a white guy and put him in jail for 30 years. Ya know, because it happened to blacks.
Discrimination is either wrong or it's not. You don't get to pick and choose when it's okay.
Please explain this simple conundrum to me.
You seem to agree with the idea that government discrimination based on skin color is wrong.
Excluding one farmer from a federal loan program is okay strictly because he's white.
No matter what altruistic reasons you might come up with to justify it, you're looking to do the exact same thing to someone else who you say was wronged in the first place. Excluding blacks was bad. Now we're going to do it to white people. We just think we have a good reason to do it.
Using you're pointless anology above, a black guy gets unjustly locked up for 30 years, so now we're going to take a white guy and put him in jail for 30 years. Ya know, because it happened to blacks.
Discrimination is either wrong or it's not. You don't get to pick and choose when it's okay.
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SPC Kevin Ford
Sgt (Join to see) The ideas that people can be harmed based on race and also that those harmed should be made whole are not mutually exclusive. As I have said earlier on this thread the Democrats problem is they are not tying their remedies close enough to the harm.
This particular idea is one that isn't great and I've never said it was. There is no tie to to harm and only a general benefit based on race. Not all people who were harmed would benefit from this law and not all people who would benefit from this law have a tie to harm.
This particular idea is one that isn't great and I've never said it was. There is no tie to to harm and only a general benefit based on race. Not all people who were harmed would benefit from this law and not all people who would benefit from this law have a tie to harm.
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Sgt (Join to see)
SPC Kevin Ford - Why should someone be entitled to a benefit from the government based solely on race? And, if the weren't harmed, why should they benefit at all?
Those who were harmed could file suit against the USDA as was done in Pigford. Not this blanket approach that Biden pushed. "White people excluded."
Those who were harmed could file suit against the USDA as was done in Pigford. Not this blanket approach that Biden pushed. "White people excluded."
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It's the ACA all over again. All they're doing is punishing farmers in their own states. More money for the others I guess.
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