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MSG Thomas Currie
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Such a legislative proposal is nothing but Reverse Virtue Signaling by an idiot trying to micromanage a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

I suspect that the prompt behind this nonsense comes from a hysterical piece of nonsense suggesting that there is a grand conspiracy to take guns away from conservative nutcases by somehow creating a list of everyone who isn't vaccinated, then adding the list of unvaccinated people to the TSA No Fly list, and simultaneously passing legislation adding the entire No Fly list to the NICS background check prohibited persons list so that people who aren't vaccinated would be prohibited from buying guns.

That same stupid article also pointed out that even without the No Fly List aspects, the New Woke Military could get rid of conservatives by conducting courts martial trials for anyone in the military who refused the vaccine, giving them dishonorable discharges which would prevent them from buying guns after leaving the military and would also open up lots of vacancies so the military could enlist new people whose ideas are more suited to current politically correct ways.

The entire article was complete nonsense, but it has been spread across social media as if it made sense and was actually going to happen.

Yes, there are people stupid enough to believe such trash, and apparently at least one of them is in Congress.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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This is a non issue. These are administrative discharges, which are almost exclusively characterized as honorable.
This is making up something to fight against, and then putting on a big show of fighting the imaginary monster.
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Tilting at the windmills passing
Who can the brave young horseman be?
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SFC Thomas Foreman - So if the Congressman is Don Quixote, who is Sancho Panza? The media?
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SFC Michael Hasbun dammit man, I just wanted to post some Gordon Lightfoot lyrics to make the world a better place. I wasn’t emotionally prepared to take the analogy this far…
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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I agree with this.... provided it has a sunset clause. Give it, say, 1 year. If you refuse to get the vaccine, which is now authorized for full use, REQUIRED as part of military service, AND known to be a requirement, you got a year to be out of the military with no real penalty. Of course, it takes time to get out, so in reality, you got 3-6 months to go talk to your Commander and get the ball rolling.

I'll have none of this "try to hide from the vaccine and refuse to follow the requirement, but ALSO stay in the military" shit. If you ain't gonna do it, own up, talk to your Commander, and hit the flipping road, Jack.
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Dishonorable discharges are handed down for what the military considers the most reprehensible conduct. This type of discharge may be rendered only by conviction at a general court-martial for serious offenses (e.g., desertion, sexual assault, murder, etc.) that call for dishonorable discharge as part of the sentence. (Google, Internet, UCMJ MCM)
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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Right. But if you read the article, this would *also* block anything other than a full honorable, to include blocking a general under honorable conditions. I do not believe that refusing a vaccine should get a dishonorable. But refusing to obey orders should definitely at least be ELIGIBLE for a general discharge, at the discretion of the CoC, IMHO.
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