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SPC Kevin Ford
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An interesting thought is certainly who lost as well as us. We "won" against Al Queda. They are definitely losers in this. They were dispersed, lost their primary leadership and were unable to mount effective counter attacks against US for 20 years. They still exist now, and they can still go after us, but there is no doubt they are losers in the exchange.

However, we lost in nation building against the Afghan people. We were unable to overcome what their population wanted to be, an Islamic state.

Pakistan probably "won". They played both sides well. China may be better off but I'm not so sure about Russia.

There is still an opportunity for us to win in the long term too, similar to Vietnam. But it truly is a long term thing. (What I mean by "won" in relation to Vietnam is that they are not a threat to us, we have some shared interests and a reasonably decent relationship).
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
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And don't forget the American Defense Contractors!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SFC Retired
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The taliban is already in the works with Russia and China. This is a dumpster fire of epic proportions.
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