Posted on Mar 17, 2022
Idaho's Proposed Abortion Ban Lets Rapists' Families Profit Off Bounties
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Idaho's Proposed Abortion Ban Lets Rapists' Families Profit Off Bounties
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"An Idaho bill that would allow a pregnant woman’s family members to sue abortion providers also includes a controversial twist. It would allow a rapist’s family members to sue the victim’s doctor under the same proposal, the legislation’s Republican sponsor confirmed this week.
The Idaho bill, S.B. 1309, is modeled after Texas’ 6-week abortion ban that went into effect in September. It’s different, however, in that it limits who can sue once a woman obtains an abortion. Under the Idaho law, abortion providers can be sued by the patient, the father of a fetus or their family members.
The bill does include an exception for rape or incest, although it forces women to file a police report and provide it to a physician. If a woman fails to do so before an abortion, the rapist’s family members could sue and collect damages.
Damages start at $20,000, raising concerns a patient’s abortion could allow others to greatly profit off the bounties. The bill is broad enough that abortion advocates worry it will effectively ban abortion in the state at around 6 weeks when many women don’t yet know they’re pregnant."...
The Idaho bill, S.B. 1309, is modeled after Texas’ 6-week abortion ban that went into effect in September. It’s different, however, in that it limits who can sue once a woman obtains an abortion. Under the Idaho law, abortion providers can be sued by the patient, the father of a fetus or their family members.
The bill does include an exception for rape or incest, although it forces women to file a police report and provide it to a physician. If a woman fails to do so before an abortion, the rapist’s family members could sue and collect damages.
Damages start at $20,000, raising concerns a patient’s abortion could allow others to greatly profit off the bounties. The bill is broad enough that abortion advocates worry it will effectively ban abortion in the state at around 6 weeks when many women don’t yet know they’re pregnant."...
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How many abortions are the result of rape?
.13%
So you're gonna take the one-tenth of 1% and use that as the main reason why the bill is bad?
.13%
So you're gonna take the one-tenth of 1% and use that as the main reason why the bill is bad?
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SP5 Dennis Loberger
As a person who has had a family member raped and seen the lifelong effects of that, that .13% is enough for me. Given the unlikely chance that a victim of rape is going to share that they were raped, that number is surely higher.
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Sgt (Join to see) - Without the uterus of the pregnant person, that embryo/fetus isn't surviving. And the embryo/fetus has half of the sperm donor's DNA and half of the egg donor's DNA. It doesn't have it's own completely different DNA at all. Hence why unmarried males have to take a DNA test to establish paternity in many states.
Abortion is healthcare.
Cisgender men are those biologically male. Transgender men do get pregnant though. Hence why I said cisgender.
Pregnancy isn't contagious. A virus that caused a worldwide pandemic is. So you can't compare the two. Also no one was "forced" to get the covid vaccine. Name one person who was forced. One person strapped down and given the shot against their will. Oh there wasn't any. People had choices - get it or don't get it.
You have no valid reason to ban abortion nor does any other legislator. Banning abortion does NOT stop abortion. It makes it harder and more dangerous for poor people to get one.
Abortion is healthcare.
Cisgender men are those biologically male. Transgender men do get pregnant though. Hence why I said cisgender.
Pregnancy isn't contagious. A virus that caused a worldwide pandemic is. So you can't compare the two. Also no one was "forced" to get the covid vaccine. Name one person who was forced. One person strapped down and given the shot against their will. Oh there wasn't any. People had choices - get it or don't get it.
You have no valid reason to ban abortion nor does any other legislator. Banning abortion does NOT stop abortion. It makes it harder and more dangerous for poor people to get one.
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SP5 Dennis Loberger - I'm sympathetic but it doesn't change my stance. I have no problem with abortion because of rape or health of the mother. My issue is with elective abortion simply because the parent doesn't want to live up to the consequences of their decisions. And that is the vast majority of abortions, not the .13%.
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SFC (Join to see) - The fetus has different DNA from the mother and the father, that's why mothers don't produce clones. They have a mix of both, hence, the baby's DNA is different from either the mother or the father. That's why you're different from your parents.
Abortion is not healthcare.
Transgender men get pregnant because they're women. They have a vagina and a uterus. Men don't get pregnant because they don't have those things. Basic anatomy.
I didn't say it was contagious and I can easily compare the two. Choosing between taking the shot and loosing your livelihood in many cases isn't a choice at all. No one is being as melodramatic as saying anyone was being strapped down. You can easily compare that to the casting couch also that the left liked to bring up during their "Me Too" campaign. Have sex with me or you don't get a part in the movie. Do you have a choice? Sure you do. Just like you have a choice getting a worthless vaccine.
And yes you can ban abortions. Send the doctors and the women who kill their baby to jail. Will it stop it? Nope? Does having a law against murder stop murder?
Abortion is not healthcare.
Transgender men get pregnant because they're women. They have a vagina and a uterus. Men don't get pregnant because they don't have those things. Basic anatomy.
I didn't say it was contagious and I can easily compare the two. Choosing between taking the shot and loosing your livelihood in many cases isn't a choice at all. No one is being as melodramatic as saying anyone was being strapped down. You can easily compare that to the casting couch also that the left liked to bring up during their "Me Too" campaign. Have sex with me or you don't get a part in the movie. Do you have a choice? Sure you do. Just like you have a choice getting a worthless vaccine.
And yes you can ban abortions. Send the doctors and the women who kill their baby to jail. Will it stop it? Nope? Does having a law against murder stop murder?
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