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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
..."The court has not set a date for his sentencing.

Cameron will also pay $500 to the Architect of the Capitol (a federal agency) as part of restitution for the millions of dollars in damage to the building that day in 2021.

He's among at least 12 people with ties to Washington state charged for involvement in the insurrection. Two of them were just arrested in March."
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SGT Mike Ange
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He did not plea to insurrection - he pleaded to "parading, picketing or demonstrating inside the Capital" which is a class B misdemeanor. It is also probably the correct charge minus all the hype and political BS that has surrounded this terrible incident by a few miscreants. As a former investigator and LEO both civilian and military it is very likely the warrant I would have requested if I had made the arrest. But then I was never a fan of charge loading and other such BS that undermines the credibility of and the public trust in law enforcement.
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SGT Mike Ange
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Capt Gregory Prickett first we are far afield of the initial discussion. 2nd I stand corrected on sedition as it is ONLY a conspiracy crime and the actual actions would fall under rebellion, insurrection etc (18 U.S.C. § 2384). Sedition itself is only a crime under the UCMJ. However, I don’t buy it - do you have a source other than CNN and if armed individuals were outside DC, with a specific plan why were they not charged with insurrection? That would meet the standard, so was the US attorney just benevolent? Did the Trump aid immediately report the call? If not why has he not been charged and if so why has this not been referenced in any of the dozens of indictments against this specific group of miscreants? What you have stated here is also NOT reflective of the FBI report placed into the Congressional record. On the conspiracy front any action specifically supporting the conspiracy is all that is required as an act. No direct action toward the actual conduct of a crime is necessary and in this case as you correctly note the crime Itself would be a different charge, not sedition. Buying supplies, soliciting 3rd party assistance, training, obtaining maps and plans, seeking pricing or financing of contraband or any of probably 2 dozen additional and otherwise non criminal acts can and in my personal experience have consummate(d) a conspiracy. Both CIs and UAs have been referenced in this investigation prior to 6 Jan . I don’t buy that there was someone in the org in the employee of the FBI and they had no knowledge. I also don’t buy a DOJ attorney being benevolent enough not to charge if the charge could be justified.

Since we are so far afield I am curious to know your thoughts as a former LEO, on the shooting of an unarmed female as she was suspended hanging from a window an unable to even assault any of the 4 officers present just inside the Capital. I have a difficult time seeing how that is a good shooting. Your thoughts?
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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SGT Mike Ange - My source is the DOJ court documents, and I'm good to wait and see how it plays out. I'm not privy to their charging decisions, and won't comment on that.

As to the "FBI report"? Exactly which "report" are you talking about? Provide a link, and I'll look at it.

On the other, I've already stated that the shooting of Babbitt was completely justified, see https://lawfortworth.wordpress.com/2021/01/06/the-death-of-ashli-babbitt/ which was cross-posted to RallyPoint. Air Force cops are drilled on this, over and over again, on protecting priority resources. As my column points out, Members of Congress are priority resources, just as the President is such a resource.
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SGT Mike Ange
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Capt Gregory Prickett both the logic and the the legal test fails. 1) The members had all been evacuated and the physical facility does not meet the standard you espouse. The actions of the officer were not in keeping with TN v Garner or the standard set in Graham v Conner (a rare 9-0 decision). Although many RepubliCrats feel they are exempt from all laws the facts are that they are not and neither are the Capitol Police. There has been no justification of critical resource protection espoused or justified. In fact as best as I can tell their has been no comprehensive IA investigation of any type. Why the multiple standard? Dozens and dozens of entries (hundreds maybe) but a defenseless unarmed female confronting 4 armed officers was the only one posing the level of threat required AND the perpetrators entering the Capitol while members were present posed no adequate threat but Babbit entering after full evacuation justifies deadly force. Come on counselor - who are you pimping for? You are too intelligent to buy that unmitigated load of horse crap.

Given lack of response, I’ll assume that you feel it reasonable to assume that the prosecutors did not charge all of the crimes you’ve alleged because of extreme benevolence and empathy for the offenders. Tell me do these social workers in prosecutor garb also volunteer to destroy evidence to stop cartel members from going to prison as well? Do the DEMs know they are protecting these insurrectionist? Do you even believe what you have stated here?

As to the link - it appears to have been taken down (at least the .gov site I had has been). Here is the Reuters report on the FBI report submitted to Congress in Aug 2021 -https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/. I’ll hop on Lexis and see if I can find the original report.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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SGT Mike Ange - The members had not been evacuated, they were on the other side of the Speaker's Lobby, being evacuated from the House Chamber at the time that Babbitt tried to breach the barricade. Next, neither Garner nor Graham are directly on point, as they don't govern the use of deadly force to protect national security resources. Third, both the DOJ and the Capitol Police investigated, the DOJ for a criminal violation, and the USCP for administrative violations, and both investigations cleared the officer.

The link you provided shows what I thought, a report, not from the FBI, but from "sources" who had been "briefed". You should also remember that the sources said that there were some who were organized. Eleven of those were later indicted for seditious conspiracy, and face 20 years. Someone who was an MPI should know the difference between an official FBI report, and what "sources" report to the press.
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