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CW4 Guy Butler
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Have to watch this to see if it goes from anecdotal to confirmed.
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Its confirmed. Its happening right now in Texas.
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Maj John Bell
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SGT (Join to see) - Such reports are anecdotal and UNCONFIRMED. Texas law S.B. 4, methotrexate is specifically listed as an "abortion-inducing drug," and as such, the law requires that those who dispense the drug follow certain protocols or else risk a felony charge.

As long as those protocols are followed, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in Texas SB $that stops a physician from for prescribing methotrexate for ANY condition other than pregnancy. It may STILL be prescribed to induce an abortion for a woman who has an ectopic pregnancy.

The press is pushing an agenda. They are lying to you.

"Sec. 171.063. PROVISION OF ABORTION-INDUCING DRUG. (a) A person may not knowingly provide an abortion-inducing drug to a pregnant woman FOR THE PURPOSE OF INDUCING AN ABORTION [emphasis mine] in the pregnant woman or enabling another person to induce an abortion in the pregnant woman unless:
(1) the person who provides the abortion-inducing drug is a physician; and
(2) the provision of the abortion-inducing drug satisfies the protocol authorized by this subchapter.

(c) Before the physician provides an abortion-inducing drug, the physician must:
(1) examine the pregnant woman in person;
(2) independently verify that a pregnancy exists;
(3) document, in the woman's medical record, the gestational age and intrauterine location of the pregnancy to determine whether an ectopic pregnancy exists;
(4) determine the pregnant woman's blood type, and for a woman who is Rh negative, offer to administer Rh immunoglobulin (RhoGAM) at the time the abortion-inducing drug is administered or used or the abortion is performed or induced to prevent Rh incompatibility, complications, or miscarriage in future pregnancies;
(5) document whether the pregnant woman received treatment for Rh negativity, as diagnosed by the most accurate standard of medical care; and
(6) ensure the physician does not provide an abortion-inducing drug for a pregnant woman whose pregnancy is more than 49 days of gestational age.

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/HS/htm/HS.171.htm#171.063

SGT Mary G. PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
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Maj John Bell Imagine yourself with an 8 year old daughter and having to take her to be examined and tested to see if she is pregnant and getting allow the paperwork presented just to get her medication. Oh and this will happen with every single refill. Acceptable to you?
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Maj John Bell
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SGT (Join to see) - I can only guess at the details of your intended scenario. If your narrative is for an 8-year-old girl, suffering from one of the non-prescription ailments which the FDA has licensed methotrexate, no it will not happen every single refill. Read the law again. There is nothing in the Texas code that requires a pregnancy test if the drug is being prescribed for ANYTHING OTHER THAN PREGNANCY.

If someone has an 8-year-old daughter that they think might be pregnant:
1) Healthcare professionals are REQUIRED reporters of suspected child abuse or sexual assault of a minor. Failure to report a pregnancy in a child under the age of consent (17 in Texas) will result in the loss of the healthcare provider's medical license. If an 8-year-old girl is repeatedly possibly pregnant, why is she not being removed from that home and put some place safe?
2) Texas law allows for abortion if the pregnancy endangers the health of the mother. I don't think any competent physician would say that it is perfectly safe for an 8-year-old girl to go through a full-term pregnancy.

Would you care to present a more plausible scenario?
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SGT Mary G.
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Unintended by whom? Not doing thorough research before passing laws that will kill people is unintended? I doubt it. I know people who have it prescribed for arthritis, and for lupus. And I know young women who have been diagnosed with those medical conditions. Years ago my sister didn't know her pregnancy was ectopic and endangering her life until she ended up in the hospital. According to the article the pharmaceutical seems to be used for many medical conditions, that do not seem closely related.
There really is no "one size fits all" when pro-birth, instead of pro-life is used for age-discrimination purposes.
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln - Check your facts. Salk wasn't the only one working on the vaccines, Russ.
The poliovirus was discovered in 1908. Early vaccine projects started in the 1930's. Salk's vaccine was pulled after it started giving people polio and killing people and Sabin's was used in the end.
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PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln
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Sgt (Join to see) - Please supply your references.
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Hopefully the Executive Order signed by the POTUS will bridge the gap for the time being.
"State-level restrictions on abortion may be blocking some patients' access to methotrexate, a drug used to treat several autoimmune diseases, including lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, as well as some cancers, such as breast and lung cancers.

That's because, in addition to these diseases, methotrexate (also known by the brand names Otrexup (PF), Xatmep and Trexall) is sometimes used to treat ectopic pregnancy, a condition in which the fertilized egg implants outside the uterus. An ectopic pregnancy never produces a viable, full-term fetus and is life-threatening to the pregnant person if not immediately terminated. In some cases, the pregnancy can be terminated with an injection of methotrexate, which stops the growth of the embryo by preventing cell division.

Following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, about 15 states immediately moved to ban or severely restrict abortion, including the prescription and use of medications capable of ending a pregnancy, The Washington Post reported(opens in new tab). In at least some of these states, these restrictions have already caused roadblocks for patients seeking methotrexate for other uses, and some patients shared their experiences on social media. For now, these reports are anecdotal, so it's unclear how many patients have been affected and where they're all located."...
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