Posted on Mar 21, 2023
2023 Challenger: Dodge unveils last super-fast, gas-powered muscle car
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The Church of the Green New Deal will not kill the internal combustion engine car.
I have a 305 HP V6 2015 Dodge Challenger SXT Plus. It runs a very slow zero to 60 in 7 Seconds. It only has about 60,000 miles on it and I've gone through three car batteries in the last 8 years. 600 bucks total give or take. I'm sure I'll have it for at least eight more years.
Someone who buys a fully electric car today, will have to think of upgrading their car battery after 8 years and it could run you somewhere around 20 grand to replace it based on current estimates.
Remember the video on TV of the guy from Finland with the 2013 Tesla Model S who blew up his car with 55 lb of explosives after he found out it was going to cost him $22,000 to replace the battery.
For those of you who live in California, remember Governor Gavin Newsom warned you that you couldn't charge your vehicle during peak hours during the summer. How Foxtrot is that?
Electric cars are cool but the Biden and Progressive State Governments are again picking winners and losers is Un- American! We are not saving the earth while China builds a coal-fired power plant almost weekly and India is switching from Coal to Natural Gas. China lies saying it will be Net Zero by 2060 and India's Prime Minister just extended their Net Zero emissions until 2070. The Climate Emergency only applies to gullible Western Leftist Governments while the rest of the world is mostly business as usual.
For those of you who are science fiction aficionados,
Do you remember the Will Smith movie I Robot?
The year the robots were supposed to take over was 2035.
I believe 2035 is when Gavin Newsom and the California legislature want to ban the importation or production of new gasoline for diesel-powered Automobiles and trucks.
Remembering the dystopian future, the Mainframe shuts down all-electric cars and only Will Smith is able to race back into town with his classic Ducati motorcycle that runs on gasoline?
This movie that came out 20 years ago kind of reminds me of the dystopian future when electric cars will Sunday not work correctly because a virus will take over their software similar to how when the Mainframe computer wanted to take over with the robots and make humans worldwide their prisoners.
Just saying, in the meantime, I'm still keeping stock in my oil energy stocks.
My oil and energy stocks were up 25% until the latest financial crisis and down to about 5% when my text docs are in the toilet!
My Tesla stock is down probably because of retribution against Elon Musk going against the left and censorship. I have stock in Precious Metals and metals used in electric car production and they are not doing very well right now.
Unless the price of batteries can be lowered significantly, I feel that electric vehicles are going to be more of a novelty and not catching on because of their half-life of 8 years while a car with an internal combustion engine like diesel or gasoline can last a lot longer and not cost very much, especially if not driven that much like my particular 2015 Dodge Challenger.
This final era of the internal combustion engine muscle car lasted a lot longer than the 1962 to 1972 muscle car era.
Today's muscle cars are very fuel efficient compared to the past and they won't give you a headache every time you park it in the garage. I own a 1966 Mustang with an RV Cam and a 289 V8 and it is a night and day difference on how little emissions these new muscle cars have compared to 1960s muscle cars.
I have a 305 HP V6 2015 Dodge Challenger SXT Plus. It runs a very slow zero to 60 in 7 Seconds. It only has about 60,000 miles on it and I've gone through three car batteries in the last 8 years. 600 bucks total give or take. I'm sure I'll have it for at least eight more years.
Someone who buys a fully electric car today, will have to think of upgrading their car battery after 8 years and it could run you somewhere around 20 grand to replace it based on current estimates.
Remember the video on TV of the guy from Finland with the 2013 Tesla Model S who blew up his car with 55 lb of explosives after he found out it was going to cost him $22,000 to replace the battery.
For those of you who live in California, remember Governor Gavin Newsom warned you that you couldn't charge your vehicle during peak hours during the summer. How Foxtrot is that?
Electric cars are cool but the Biden and Progressive State Governments are again picking winners and losers is Un- American! We are not saving the earth while China builds a coal-fired power plant almost weekly and India is switching from Coal to Natural Gas. China lies saying it will be Net Zero by 2060 and India's Prime Minister just extended their Net Zero emissions until 2070. The Climate Emergency only applies to gullible Western Leftist Governments while the rest of the world is mostly business as usual.
For those of you who are science fiction aficionados,
Do you remember the Will Smith movie I Robot?
The year the robots were supposed to take over was 2035.
I believe 2035 is when Gavin Newsom and the California legislature want to ban the importation or production of new gasoline for diesel-powered Automobiles and trucks.
Remembering the dystopian future, the Mainframe shuts down all-electric cars and only Will Smith is able to race back into town with his classic Ducati motorcycle that runs on gasoline?
This movie that came out 20 years ago kind of reminds me of the dystopian future when electric cars will Sunday not work correctly because a virus will take over their software similar to how when the Mainframe computer wanted to take over with the robots and make humans worldwide their prisoners.
Just saying, in the meantime, I'm still keeping stock in my oil energy stocks.
My oil and energy stocks were up 25% until the latest financial crisis and down to about 5% when my text docs are in the toilet!
My Tesla stock is down probably because of retribution against Elon Musk going against the left and censorship. I have stock in Precious Metals and metals used in electric car production and they are not doing very well right now.
Unless the price of batteries can be lowered significantly, I feel that electric vehicles are going to be more of a novelty and not catching on because of their half-life of 8 years while a car with an internal combustion engine like diesel or gasoline can last a lot longer and not cost very much, especially if not driven that much like my particular 2015 Dodge Challenger.
This final era of the internal combustion engine muscle car lasted a lot longer than the 1962 to 1972 muscle car era.
Today's muscle cars are very fuel efficient compared to the past and they won't give you a headache every time you park it in the garage. I own a 1966 Mustang with an RV Cam and a 289 V8 and it is a night and day difference on how little emissions these new muscle cars have compared to 1960s muscle cars.
2023 Challenger: Dodge unveils last super-fast, gas-powered muscle car
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Before taking the plunge into an EV, I want to see incredible leaps in a couple of areas - the number of charging stations, battery recharge time, and vehicle range on a full charge.
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Agree on all and another big one for me: Until an EV is a larger car than an econo-box run by a battery, I've no interest.
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Dodge put the whole world on notice when it dropped the 707 horsepower Hellcat Challenger. Then, they did it again with the 840 horsepower Demon. It’s not a complicated formula–build the highest horsepower supercharged hemi vehicle possible–but those looking for proof that the formula is still effective need look no further than the SRT Demon 170. It’s the end of an era, the last hurrah, the final showdown of blown, injected, hemi goodness–and boy is it good.
Zero to 60 claims are 1.66 seconds (obtained on a prepped drag racing surface) and the Demon blasts through the traps at an astonishing 8.91-seconds at 151.17 mph. Much like the original model, the Demon 170 receives a punk rock-esque NHRA violation letter “ban” for running a sub-nine-second quarter-mile without a safety cage and parachute. The latter can be installed, but it’s a bit of a tickle to owners–and Dodge–to be too fast for class.
... read on:
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/dodge-srt-demon-170/
Zero to 60 claims are 1.66 seconds (obtained on a prepped drag racing surface) and the Demon blasts through the traps at an astonishing 8.91-seconds at 151.17 mph. Much like the original model, the Demon 170 receives a punk rock-esque NHRA violation letter “ban” for running a sub-nine-second quarter-mile without a safety cage and parachute. The latter can be installed, but it’s a bit of a tickle to owners–and Dodge–to be too fast for class.
... read on:
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/dodge-srt-demon-170/
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What they are doing with engines s Amazing. At a recent show an engne builder displayed a prototype 4 cylinder engine with Chevy LS head. This mini monster produces 340 hp and has good torque numbers. It is based on a heavy duty industrial engine. They also have a model that uses Ford Windsor heads. I wonder what you could get with some boost?
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Yes probably some 4 cylinder turbo will be the future of the internal combustion engine. It's interesting that I had a 2010 Dodge Caravan with 160 horsepower and 3.3 L engine. It was a slug. The engine in my Dodge Challenger is 3.6 L I think and puts out 300 horsepower yet the 1980s Buick Grand National experimental put out 300 horsepower with a modified Turbo yet my engine is normally aspirated. It's amazing how technology keeps improving. I would much rather have internal combustion engine vehicle that could start on its own power and I have to rely on the grid. Also, electric cars in cold climates can't go very far because they have to keep the battery warm as well as keep the passenger compartment warm. Internal combustion engines make their own heat so it's no big deal to warm the passenger but it is a problem with electric vehicles. Also, filling up the tank in 10 minutes when a quick charge may still be a few hours with an electric vehicle. They don't have the range and they're down time in between charges invalidates their saving of time.
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