Posted on Dec 27, 2023
'Betrayed is an understatement': Michigan fake elector says he was duped by GOP officials
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A Republican fake elector in Michigan told investigators of his regret for trying to swing the 2020 vote for Donald Trump — and said officials “betrayed” him by exploiting his ignorance.
In a recording of an interview obtained by the New York Times, James Renner said it was only after he heard testimony from the House’s Janunary 6 investigation that he realized he’d acted illegally.
“I was accepting the individuals that were in authority” knew “what they were talking about,” Renner said in the interview.
But, after he and another 15 fake electors were sued in civil court in January this year, he started reading House transcripts involving the scheme he was accused of being a part of.
“It was only then that I realized that, hold it, there is an official state-authorized process for this,” he said. “I had never been an elector, I had never discussed it with anybody. I was used to a much more informal process at the county level. And so that’s when I became suspicious of what had gone on... what happened was not legitimate.”
“I am very upset,” he went on. “I don’t show it, but I am. … Betrayed is an understatement. That’s all I can say.”
Criminal charges against Renner, including forgery and conspiracy, were dropped after he agreed to cooperate with Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel. He is the only one of 16 people hit with the charges in July to have them dropped.
A Republican fake elector in Michigan told investigators of his regret for trying to swing the 2020 vote for Donald Trump — and said officials “betrayed” him by exploiting his ignorance.
In a recording of an interview obtained by the New York Times, James Renner said it was only after he heard testimony from the House’s Janunary 6 investigation that he realized he’d acted illegally.
“I was accepting the individuals that were in authority” knew “what they were talking about,” Renner said in the interview.
But, after he and another 15 fake electors were sued in civil court in January this year, he started reading House transcripts involving the scheme he was accused of being a part of.
“It was only then that I realized that, hold it, there is an official state-authorized process for this,” he said. “I had never been an elector, I had never discussed it with anybody. I was used to a much more informal process at the county level. And so that’s when I became suspicious of what had gone on... what happened was not legitimate.”
“I am very upset,” he went on. “I don’t show it, but I am. … Betrayed is an understatement. That’s all I can say.”
Criminal charges against Renner, including forgery and conspiracy, were dropped after he agreed to cooperate with Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel. He is the only one of 16 people hit with the charges in July to have them dropped.
'Betrayed is an understatement': Michigan fake elector says he was duped by GOP officials
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SGT (Join to see) good day Brother Charlie, always informational and of the most interesting. Thanks for sharing, have a blessed day!
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..."“I was accepting the individuals that were in authority” knew “what they were talking about,” Renner said in the interview.
But, after he and another 15 fake electors were sued in civil court in January this year, he started reading House transcripts involving the scheme he was accused of being a part of.
“It was only then that I realized that, hold it, there is an official state-authorized process for this,” he said. “I had never been an elector, I had never discussed it with anybody. I was used to a much more informal process at the county level. And so that’s when I became suspicious of what had gone on... what happened was not legitimate.”
“I am very upset,” he went on. “I don’t show it, but I am. … Betrayed is an understatement. That’s all I can say.”
Criminal charges against Renner, including forgery and conspiracy, were dropped after he agreed to cooperate with Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel. He is the only one of 16 people hit with the charges in July to have them dropped."...
..."“I was accepting the individuals that were in authority” knew “what they were talking about,” Renner said in the interview.
But, after he and another 15 fake electors were sued in civil court in January this year, he started reading House transcripts involving the scheme he was accused of being a part of.
“It was only then that I realized that, hold it, there is an official state-authorized process for this,” he said. “I had never been an elector, I had never discussed it with anybody. I was used to a much more informal process at the county level. And so that’s when I became suspicious of what had gone on... what happened was not legitimate.”
“I am very upset,” he went on. “I don’t show it, but I am. … Betrayed is an understatement. That’s all I can say.”
Criminal charges against Renner, including forgery and conspiracy, were dropped after he agreed to cooperate with Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel. He is the only one of 16 people hit with the charges in July to have them dropped."...
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Oath Keepers leader, 10 others charged with seditious conspiracy for Capitol insurrection
The most serious federal charges yet in the Jan. 6 insurrection were unsealed Thursday. The leader of the Oath Keepers, a right-wing paramilitary group, and ...
V1 : https://youtu.be/Dvj8SbwqvvI?si=afJ2tPY-PhZohRyz
V2 : https://youtu.be/lUbksHqlneM?si=00FURbPnU-tnHAIs
3.) https://youtu.be/U7-KxEIeeqQ?si=cad5QBzUZJ9ehLbY
Insurrection must be proven in order to charge sedition.
Full List of Capitol Rioters Jailed So Far and the Sentences They Are Serving
* Sep 12, 2023 at 3:00 AM EDT
Some 378 individuals have been sentenced to periods of incarceration over their involvement in the January 6, 2021, uprising at the U.S. Capitol in the 32 months since the attempted overthrow of the 2020 election certification took place, the District of Columbia's attorney's office said on Wednesday.
More than 1,146 people hailing from all 50 states and the capital have been charged with a variety of alleged offenses in relation to their presence at the grounds of Congress that day, though the FBI noted recently that there were seven named individuals who had absconded from the law while facing charges.
The Department of Justice's (DOJ) Washington D.C. office said in its latest update that 623 people had received sentences—though not all had been handed periods of incarceration—while around 657 individuals had pleaded guilty to federal charges, "many of whom faced or will face incarceration at sentencing."
Below is a full list of those who have been imprisoned over their participation in the uprising, in no particular order. There are 380 names listed, however some have not been officially listed by the DOJ in D.C.
SOURCE : https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-capitol-rioters-jailed-sentences-january-6-1826075
1.) Ex-Proud Boys leader is sentenced to over 3 years in prison for the Capitol insurrection plot
Charles Donohoe was the second Proud Boy to plead guilty to conspiring with other group members to obstruct the Jan. 6, 2021, joint session of Congress for certifying President Joe Biden's electoral victory. His sentence could be a bellwether for other Proud Boys conspirators who agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors.
Donohoe was president of a local Proud Boys chapter in North Carolina. He was a lieutenant of former Proud Boys national chairman Enrique Tarrio, who was sentenced to 22 years in prison — the longest prison term so far in a Capitol riot case.
In May, a jury convicted Tarrio and three other former Proud Boys leaders of seditious conspiracy charges for plotting to stop the peaceful transfer of presidential power from Donald Trump to Biden.
READ MORE: Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean gets 18 years in prison, tying for longest sentence in Jan. 6 insurrection
Donohoe agreed to cooperate with federal authorities when he pleaded guilty in April 2020 to two felony counts: conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and assaulting, resisting or impeding police. But he wasn't called to testify at the trial of Tarrio and other Proud Boys earlier this year.
Prosecutors recommended a prison sentence ranging from 35 to 43 months for Donohoe. Sentencing guidelines recommended a prison term ranging from 70 to 87 months.
"Donohoe and his co-conspirators organized and led a small army as they launched an attack on the heart of our democracy. They took these actions because they did not like the outcome of the election," prosecutors wrote in a court filing.
On the morning of Jan. 6, Donohoe marched with over 100 members of the Proud Boys to the Capitol. He didn't enter the Capitol, but he threw two water bottles at officers confronting the mob outside the building.
READ MORE: Two ex-Proud Boys leaders get long sentences in Jan. 6 Capitol attack
Donohoe, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran who served two deployments in Iraq, has "eagerly divorced himself" from the Proud Boys, said defense attorney Ira Knight.
"It took Charlie time to understand the nature of his wrong," Knight said.
SOURCE : https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/ex-proud-boys-leader-is-sentenced-to-over-3-years-in-prison-for-the-capitol-insurrection-plot
2.) Understanding Insurrection and Sedition
2.) Seditious Conspiracy vs. Insurrection: Assessing the Evidence Against Trump
“Another is focusing on “seditious conspiracy and conspiracy to obstruct a government proceeding, the type of charges already filed against individuals who stormed the Capitol on January 6.” The first grand jury is looking at nonviolent efforts to block the transfer of power; the second, at violent efforts.”
V2 : https://youtu.be/lUbksHqlneM?si=00FURbPnU-tnHAIs
3.) https://youtu.be/U7-KxEIeeqQ?si=cad5QBzUZJ9ehLbY
Insurrection must be proven in order to charge sedition.
Full List of Capitol Rioters Jailed So Far and the Sentences They Are Serving
* Sep 12, 2023 at 3:00 AM EDT
Some 378 individuals have been sentenced to periods of incarceration over their involvement in the January 6, 2021, uprising at the U.S. Capitol in the 32 months since the attempted overthrow of the 2020 election certification took place, the District of Columbia's attorney's office said on Wednesday.
More than 1,146 people hailing from all 50 states and the capital have been charged with a variety of alleged offenses in relation to their presence at the grounds of Congress that day, though the FBI noted recently that there were seven named individuals who had absconded from the law while facing charges.
The Department of Justice's (DOJ) Washington D.C. office said in its latest update that 623 people had received sentences—though not all had been handed periods of incarceration—while around 657 individuals had pleaded guilty to federal charges, "many of whom faced or will face incarceration at sentencing."
Below is a full list of those who have been imprisoned over their participation in the uprising, in no particular order. There are 380 names listed, however some have not been officially listed by the DOJ in D.C.
SOURCE : https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-capitol-rioters-jailed-sentences-january-6-1826075
1.) Ex-Proud Boys leader is sentenced to over 3 years in prison for the Capitol insurrection plot
Charles Donohoe was the second Proud Boy to plead guilty to conspiring with other group members to obstruct the Jan. 6, 2021, joint session of Congress for certifying President Joe Biden's electoral victory. His sentence could be a bellwether for other Proud Boys conspirators who agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors.
Donohoe was president of a local Proud Boys chapter in North Carolina. He was a lieutenant of former Proud Boys national chairman Enrique Tarrio, who was sentenced to 22 years in prison — the longest prison term so far in a Capitol riot case.
In May, a jury convicted Tarrio and three other former Proud Boys leaders of seditious conspiracy charges for plotting to stop the peaceful transfer of presidential power from Donald Trump to Biden.
READ MORE: Proud Boys leader Ethan Nordean gets 18 years in prison, tying for longest sentence in Jan. 6 insurrection
Donohoe agreed to cooperate with federal authorities when he pleaded guilty in April 2020 to two felony counts: conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and assaulting, resisting or impeding police. But he wasn't called to testify at the trial of Tarrio and other Proud Boys earlier this year.
Prosecutors recommended a prison sentence ranging from 35 to 43 months for Donohoe. Sentencing guidelines recommended a prison term ranging from 70 to 87 months.
"Donohoe and his co-conspirators organized and led a small army as they launched an attack on the heart of our democracy. They took these actions because they did not like the outcome of the election," prosecutors wrote in a court filing.
On the morning of Jan. 6, Donohoe marched with over 100 members of the Proud Boys to the Capitol. He didn't enter the Capitol, but he threw two water bottles at officers confronting the mob outside the building.
READ MORE: Two ex-Proud Boys leaders get long sentences in Jan. 6 Capitol attack
Donohoe, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran who served two deployments in Iraq, has "eagerly divorced himself" from the Proud Boys, said defense attorney Ira Knight.
"It took Charlie time to understand the nature of his wrong," Knight said.
SOURCE : https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/ex-proud-boys-leader-is-sentenced-to-over-3-years-in-prison-for-the-capitol-insurrection-plot
2.) Understanding Insurrection and Sedition
2.) Seditious Conspiracy vs. Insurrection: Assessing the Evidence Against Trump
“Another is focusing on “seditious conspiracy and conspiracy to obstruct a government proceeding, the type of charges already filed against individuals who stormed the Capitol on January 6.” The first grand jury is looking at nonviolent efforts to block the transfer of power; the second, at violent efforts.”
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