Another circuit court rejects transgender ban, admonishes Trump lawyers

1SG (Join to see) - How many people do you truly know that did that? You do also realize that you can get PTSD from ANY traumatic incident right? So some of the "fobbits" could be survivors of sexual assault and went to the VA for MST and PTSD.

What makes you an expert on who is battlefield worthy? The people I have seen bitch and whine the most are the infantry or other combat MOSs. I was in a combat en unit my first 4 1/2 years. Mostly male. Not a lot of us females around. I heard quite a lot of bitching and moaning while stateside and deployed over miniscule insignificant shit.

I find it funny when people want to mock fobbits. I guess just don't deploy any support personnel anymore and all you "door kickers" and "trigger pullers" can fend for yourselves. It was interesting when I got called a fobbit until someone wanted their intel and help from the S2 shop.

The fact that I have been on many battlefields over 3+decades makes me a, not the, SME on who should be.

SSgt Addison R. - You poor lost soul. To think that you can strike a nerve upon me. More like I have gotten into your thought process and now you feel that you must troll my every post and think you have something important to say. Well maybe on here, but please do not think you have a tactical decision ability to even worry with the 5 w's of my service and when I should retire. You have become embolden from the previous leadership and administration to think that the military is YOUR social project. We saw this under Jimmy Carter's appointments. It took a little while for President Reagan to find all the problem makers and replace them with problem solvers. AS it did then, our military will once again focus on the fight and not social political correctness.

SSgt Addison R. - Oh and when I am outdated, the QRB process will let me know. Not some measly little AF minimum time serving SSG. What the hell do you mean by "Follow my orders"? Who the hell are you to think you give any?

1SG (Join to see) - That's not how it works at all. You cannot willy nilly change your gender. I believe in the training that every service got it states that it can take up to a year to transition. Also - whatever gender marker is in DEERS that is what regulations and standards apply. So no servicemember can say "oh I'm a female today" and the next day say "Oh I'm male again." I mean they could but their gender marker never changed so they had to follow whatever gender they are in DEERS. Also they can't transition into the gender they are changing to until it changes in DEERS. So let's say a male transitions to female. He can transition to female after duty hours when the doctor authorizes it. But he cannot be a she until the gender marker changes. Once that changes he becomes she and follows female standards and regulations.

SPC Alfred Cornelius - Cite your sources.

CPL Phillipe Farneti - Ah I see your problem now. You don't like women or homosexuals or probably any minorities.

Also if you want to call people stupid at least spell the word correctly. No this "shit" isn't affecting the "rank and file" troops because they have been openly serving for over a year. July 1 2016 they were able to serve openly. ZERO issues. After DADT repealed - no issues. Women have been serving for longer than before we were integrated...we're still here. Still serving, doing our jobs, deploying, etc.

I really hope you aren't in the military anymore.

SPC Alfred Cornelius - I have done research. I would like to see yours because I know it's bullshit. I have seen your little stat cited time and again and it's a bullshit stat that comes from bullshit sources.

Disabled is different than non deployable. One is a recognized by the ADA the other is not, there's a really good reason for the distinction.

1SG Michael Bonnett - The SMA is wanting to get rid of the non-deployables and they are looking at people who are non-deployable to see if they can get off that status or do they need to be kicked out. BUT there are plenty of non deployable people who have served entire careers and were not discharged. As stated a pregnant soldier is non deployable. If you get hurt before the deployment or during you are non deployable. Lots of things can cause someone to be non deployable and not get them discharged.

Thanks for playing though.

Since you obviously are going to need help on this go to the first link and look at step 11.
http://www.militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com/integrateddisabilityevaluationsystem.html
Look at "During and After TDRL" for the second link.
http://www.militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com/tdrl.html
How did you make SFC without knowing this? I am guessing you were not in a combat MOS.
Last, pregnancy is a temporary condition and not covered in
http://www.tam.usace.army.mil/Portals/53/docs/UDC/medical-disqualifiers.pdf

1SG Michael Bonnett - Well considering that I'm female and until what two or three years ago females couldn't be in any combat MOS, you're right I wasn't. I couldn't. I had no choice in that matter. HOWEVER I did deploy with combat engineers twice in a combat engineer battalion and I was in an infantry brigade in my last unit. But no I was not about to change my MOS after 10 years in at the point women were allowed to be in combat MOSs.

You apparently lack reading comprehension. I said that there HAVE been people who were non deployable and served entire careers as such. There are people who have never deployed even since 9/11 and weren't non deployable.

I know that people CAN be discharged for being non deployable but not EVER non deployable issue makes someone up to be discharged. A friend of mine didn't deploy the second time we went in my first unit because she got pregnant. A friend of mine went home early because she got pregnant during the deployment (her husband was in the same unit and deployed too). In fact I think about three females went home because of getting pregnant from their husbands.

I know people who didn't deploy because they were ETSing. I know people who were non deployable because they got hurt right before. Those people weren't discharged. That's the point that is being made - not EVERY non deployable gets automatically discharged. We all know there are medical boards and there are all these different ways to discharge someone who can't perform their duties. It's even in one of your links: "When an active duty service member cannot perform his duty requirements for a medical reason, he begins the Integrated Disability Evaluation System process and either returns to full duty, leaves the military, or is put on TDRL."

So I'm not sure what you think you're arguing but it sounds ridiculous and I'm not sure what you are trying to get at.