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Winning one campaign in a long war does not equal winning the war, despite the best efforts to say otherwise.
" “ISIS never went anywhere. It's still on ISIS 1.0,” Michael Knights, an expert on Iraq at the Washington Institute, told me. “All they did was in every area where they lost the ability to control terrain, they immediately transitioned to an insurgency.”'
" “ISIS never went anywhere. It's still on ISIS 1.0,” Michael Knights, an expert on Iraq at the Washington Institute, told me. “All they did was in every area where they lost the ability to control terrain, they immediately transitioned to an insurgency.”'
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Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF)
Iraq
ISIS
Terrorism
Tactics
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"No war is over until the enemy says it's over. We may think it over, we may declare it over, but in fact, the enemy gets a vote" - Mattis. I would say that General Mattis has a pretty good understanding of the enemy and the nature of war and victory.
ISIS is an ideological enemy. They are not a nation state/country or some other well defined enemy. Their ideology is based upon one of the major world religions. You can argue about their misinterpretation or misapplication of Islam but they believe they are practicing the one true form of the faith and they have a lot of followers and those sympathetic to them.
Even after WWII ended, the Nazis, who possessed a very strong ideology and were also a nation state were still a very real threat. A threat allied commanders worried about as well. They had a lot of devotees and underground groups that supported them. Nazi's still exist today but they are a very small element of society and do not have a major world religion that can develop candidates for them to recruit.
Even GW Bush saw this engagement as multi generational in nature. He was/is correct.
The reality is that until we (the allies) are willing to go directly after radicals in the Islamic world who teach this form of Islam the insurgency will not go away. When you are able to get children at 8-10 years old (or earlier) and teach them to hate and feed them full of your propaganda and world view you will be able to develop the next generation of fighters. The more insidious piece is that even less radical mosques can teach the hatred of the Jews, the west and other non Islamic causes that create a fertile field for radical seeds to grow.
This is a multi dimensional challenge that has many tentacles but must be taken down and out.
ISIS is an ideological enemy. They are not a nation state/country or some other well defined enemy. Their ideology is based upon one of the major world religions. You can argue about their misinterpretation or misapplication of Islam but they believe they are practicing the one true form of the faith and they have a lot of followers and those sympathetic to them.
Even after WWII ended, the Nazis, who possessed a very strong ideology and were also a nation state were still a very real threat. A threat allied commanders worried about as well. They had a lot of devotees and underground groups that supported them. Nazi's still exist today but they are a very small element of society and do not have a major world religion that can develop candidates for them to recruit.
Even GW Bush saw this engagement as multi generational in nature. He was/is correct.
The reality is that until we (the allies) are willing to go directly after radicals in the Islamic world who teach this form of Islam the insurgency will not go away. When you are able to get children at 8-10 years old (or earlier) and teach them to hate and feed them full of your propaganda and world view you will be able to develop the next generation of fighters. The more insidious piece is that even less radical mosques can teach the hatred of the Jews, the west and other non Islamic causes that create a fertile field for radical seeds to grow.
This is a multi dimensional challenge that has many tentacles but must be taken down and out.
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LTC,
What does Iraqi government forces mean? Is it all Shia? Is Shia military units inside Sunni areas supressing Sunni members? If I am close, as I know you can see my point, isn't this the reason ISIS formed in the first place?
Why are the Moqtar's being targeted?
I'm sorry for asking so many questions. The article is misleading, or not telling the whole truth. IMO.
Perhpas, we can go back to supporting both sides. So, their numbers stay down. Otherwise,every few years the teenage boys will reach military age and a new round of death will start. The sermons inside the Sunni areas should tell us their intent and desire.
Have a great day Sir.
What does Iraqi government forces mean? Is it all Shia? Is Shia military units inside Sunni areas supressing Sunni members? If I am close, as I know you can see my point, isn't this the reason ISIS formed in the first place?
Why are the Moqtar's being targeted?
I'm sorry for asking so many questions. The article is misleading, or not telling the whole truth. IMO.
Perhpas, we can go back to supporting both sides. So, their numbers stay down. Otherwise,every few years the teenage boys will reach military age and a new round of death will start. The sermons inside the Sunni areas should tell us their intent and desire.
Have a great day Sir.
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LTC Eric Udouj
Yes - I am in agreement - the Iraqi government has started the cycle back again with using the Shia militias in liberating the Sunni areas for ISIS.. And yes - we did stand by and watch it occur..
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