Are You In? -Gary Johnson/Bill Weld For President 2016! #LiveFree #TeamGov

Trump is an unstable, egotistical rabble rouser without a single true believe or conviction (except for himself). A vote for Trump is in favor economic chaos, bigotry and hatred - and likely a war... history shows us that when demagogues come to power, fascism, war and economic chaos is not far behind.

GySgt Carl Rumbolo - Nice rhetoric gunny. But...a vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary...you and I both know that.

I disagree. Especially if you live in Colorado. Trump is not likely to win your state nor is hw going to win mine in Massachusetts. This country has never elected a business executive directly to the White House, let alone one with three bankruptcies. A vote for Trump is a vote for a Hillary. He will not win.

LT Erik Frederick - And so you think a vote for Johnson will do any good at all? C'mon LT.

1SG (Join to see) - In general, I'm skeptical of all politicians. I'm even more skeptical of those who change their stripes.

I'm skeptical as well of such folks, but are there any significant policy positions that they have actually changed their views on?

I am not sure what you mean by "changed their stripes." If you arr talkin about values, these two have shown more consistency around their values of fiscal conservatism and social liberalism than anyone running. Whats more, they have actually put their money where their mouth is in terms if actuall governing. "Clintrump" had changed policies with the political wind. Hillary didnt even sponsor legistlation in the Senate to advance any agenda.

LTC Yinon Weiss - They don't appear to have changed their positions, but that's not the issue with me. My issues are more about political opportunism and shifting priorities. For both Johnson and Weld, their fiscal priorities are well established, and firmly aligned with their GOP background and political accomplishments. Their social priorities appear to be more of a recent development due to the changing political winds. Johnson spoke about marijuana reform while serving as a Governor, he didn't pursue anything about it while in office. As a Governor, he doesn't appear to have pursued any other social policies currently (or previously) aligned with the LP. That makes me believe that Johnson's priorities have shifted as the political winds have changed. Weld seems to have changed his views on the social issues. Those issues don't appear to have been on his agenda at all previously in his political career. Why has he now embraced them all of a sudden? I'm just skeptical of whether they are legitimate Libertarians, or if they see an open lane to try to bridge the Libertarian and the Republican voting blocks (like what Rand Paul tried to do) using a number of social issues that will never go anywhere, given the current makeup in Congress. Their small government agenda would get a warm reception from the GOP, but I don't see the GOP ever embracing the LP's social agenda. So, from a political perspective, it makes a lot of sense what they're trying to do. Use the fiscal agenda to get the conservative vote and much of the Libertarian vote, and then use the social/privacy agenda to get the rest of the Libertarian vote. The GOP would then help enact much of their fiscal agenda (assuming the Senate doesn't flip), while blocking (or slow playing) their social agenda. That would tick off only a small sliver of LP voters within their coalition. So, lots of political upside, but little political downside.

With all of that being said, I still don't know how I'm going to vote. I could go Democrat, or Republican, or Green, or not even vote. I can't find any candidate I actually like, or even come close to agreeing with on most of the major issues. They all have pockmarks on them, but I've ruled out voting LP. If the LP had nominated someone else, they'd still be in play. Not these two though.

Actually top he quit smoking and says he will not smoke in office either.

SGT Tony Clifford - Yeah, right. He quit smoking. Sure he did. Whilst he waxes on and on about the benefits of pot and how it isn't harmful.
I heard him say that, too. Somehow, I think his credit card will still have lots of late night charges for White Castle and Cool Ranch Doritos.

Listen pot isn't any worse than alcohol. As a matter of fact, alcohol is the most dangerous drug available. Heroine addicts feel like they're dying when getting sober but they are not. 1 in 6 alcoholics experience detoxifying tremors (DT) which can kill you. The most dangerous thing about drugs is that they are illegal, making a black market where violence is the only way to handle business disagreements. If you look at the majority of people convicted of crimes you will find that but for our drug laws these people wouldn't have been guilty of anything. I don't like drugs either, but for us to really believe that we are free we need to allow free people to do what they want so long as they don't harm others. If someone who is high gets behind the wheel of a car deal with them then.

Here's some facts about Gov. Johnson. He was an incredibly popular republican governer right. He vetoed more legislation than the other 49 governers combined. He started his own construction company from scratch and sold it in 1999 for $40 million. He gave New Mexico a budget surplus and is a staunch supported of constitutionally protected right.

SGT Tony Clifford - Listen to Governor Johnson talk in the late '90s when he was Governor of New Mexico and listen to him talk now and then tell me pot had no ill effects.
I have some Libertarian leanings myself - agree with some elements, not with others - but I think we can do a lot better than a pothead for President.
Or an alcoholic, for that matter. Senator Ted Kennedy would have had a real shot at the Oval Office were it not for his battles with the bottle and a dip in a creek in Massachusetts.