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some one is reinventing the wheel... and think of all the M-9's, parts and pieces that are going to Flood the market... thats going to sink the prices of the Beretta s 92's and clones. and Beretta stock is going to Tank...
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PO1 John Johnson
On the other hand, think of all the military versions of the M9's that will be available for purchase!
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PO1 Tim Grace
PO1 John Johnson - For concealed carry, no one sees it anyway. Are your skivvies Fruit of the Loom or BVDs?
Easy to clean - yeah, once you get it apart. I didn't care for the take-down on the Glocks, either. ("Take out of battery by exactly .132 inch; with your other hand, use your thumb and forefinger to reach and pull down the minuscule tab that 1. you can't really get a good purchase on because it is in the small recess and is tiny and 2. is being forced up under spring pressure with a force equivalent to a diesel engine valve spring. Move the slide forward (or is it backward) then pull the trigger. I may have exaggerated a little, but that is what it seemed like, to me.)
Easy to shoot - Yup, even when holstering. That's where the term "Glock Butt" came from. I don't like the fact that there is no safety, other than the trigger. I will not carry my M&P 9 simply because it has no safety, other than the trigger. If it weren't for the backstrap safety on my XD, I might have had a case of Glock Butt. The holster folded over into the trigger guard and I didn't notice. The holster has since been trashed.
Not every 1911 is a BBQ gun. My Springfield Range Officer is utilitarian in nature, even the grips are black. Yeah, it's still prettier than any Glock, but no one sees it, anyway.
In the end, the bad guy ain't going to care whether he was shot with a $195 Hi-point (a gun that is even uglier than a Glock and doesn't function as well) or a $3500 Night Hawk Talon with $5000 worth of beautiful scroll work.
Easy to clean - yeah, once you get it apart. I didn't care for the take-down on the Glocks, either. ("Take out of battery by exactly .132 inch; with your other hand, use your thumb and forefinger to reach and pull down the minuscule tab that 1. you can't really get a good purchase on because it is in the small recess and is tiny and 2. is being forced up under spring pressure with a force equivalent to a diesel engine valve spring. Move the slide forward (or is it backward) then pull the trigger. I may have exaggerated a little, but that is what it seemed like, to me.)
Easy to shoot - Yup, even when holstering. That's where the term "Glock Butt" came from. I don't like the fact that there is no safety, other than the trigger. I will not carry my M&P 9 simply because it has no safety, other than the trigger. If it weren't for the backstrap safety on my XD, I might have had a case of Glock Butt. The holster folded over into the trigger guard and I didn't notice. The holster has since been trashed.
Not every 1911 is a BBQ gun. My Springfield Range Officer is utilitarian in nature, even the grips are black. Yeah, it's still prettier than any Glock, but no one sees it, anyway.
In the end, the bad guy ain't going to care whether he was shot with a $195 Hi-point (a gun that is even uglier than a Glock and doesn't function as well) or a $3500 Night Hawk Talon with $5000 worth of beautiful scroll work.
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PO1 John Johnson
And as proven by the content of this thread, everyone has their favorite weapon! It doesn't matter whether you prefer Glocks, Sigs, 1911's, Walthers, Wilson Combat Specials, Rock Rivers, S&W's, Springfields, Colts, etc., in whatever caliber; as long as you have it on you when trouble comes your way, they're all good.
However, this thread has devolved from the original thread of "Army; your new handgun will be a Sig Sauer". With all the actual American weapons manufacturers, I find it hard to believe that they (they = whomever makes these decisions) couldn't find an American manufacturer that could deliver a MilSpec pistol we all could be proud of. I suspect if you could follow the money, you'd find a single or block of politicians backing Sig Sauer, who is a Swiss/German conglomerate with a "plant" in the US, where the money eventually ends up overseas at the parent company.
However, this thread has devolved from the original thread of "Army; your new handgun will be a Sig Sauer". With all the actual American weapons manufacturers, I find it hard to believe that they (they = whomever makes these decisions) couldn't find an American manufacturer that could deliver a MilSpec pistol we all could be proud of. I suspect if you could follow the money, you'd find a single or block of politicians backing Sig Sauer, who is a Swiss/German conglomerate with a "plant" in the US, where the money eventually ends up overseas at the parent company.
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PO1 Tim Grace
PO1 John Johnson - Agreed.
All of our military hardware should come from American sources. Who knows what tomorrow will bring and our military should not be hampered because we cannot get spare parts from a country that we may be at war with on another day. (Iran's F14s in the 80's comes to mind.)
All of our military hardware should come from American sources. Who knows what tomorrow will bring and our military should not be hampered because we cannot get spare parts from a country that we may be at war with on another day. (Iran's F14s in the 80's comes to mind.)
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