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There's something wrong with all of you and your priorities.

So they had fun with her reenlistment? Who cares? Shes willing to re-up, she chose to take the verbal oath (which really doesn't matter) in a joking fashion, and that's somehow a mortal sin for three careers? Were the documents signed by all parties? If so, it was legal.

Get out of here with the uptight bullshit.
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LtCol Robert Quinter
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LCDR (Join to see) - Not going to argue with you, but tradition and all the "bullshit" are a large factor in the Corps and an insignificant contribution to the departure rate. You might want to pay a little more attention to those senior officers who were once young Lieutenants. The senior officers I worked with were very much focused on people, their dignity and welfare.
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LtCol Robert Quinter so focused on people that they'll end multiple careers for a simple lack of decorum? Miss me with that mentality, thanks. Anyone who thinks this was justice isn't someone I'd want to serve with.
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You are only getting one perspective of what transpired. More than likely there was more to this situation than what was released by the ones held accountable. Past behavior and judgement exhibited by the Senior Leader more than likely contributed to the decision that was made. My past experience with the Guard has been that you can make a mistake and still retain membership. I suspect there was a pattern of significant poor judgement in the past.
Lt you are a future Senior Leader. Speaking out in a public forum and criticizing leaders over a matter that you have no administrative oversight and contradicting them is a good way to negatively impact your career. Before you start screaming about free speech, speech isn't free. When you speak out on a subject, the price you pay is the reaction you receive. Consequences can be positive or negative.
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COL Victor Hagan
COL Victor Hagan
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Not sure I concur with your characterization of the ceremony. But I agree with you that the Soldier's willingness to take the Oath of Enlistment should outweigh the manner in which it was performed in this instance. As a 2LT, I reenlisted my NBC NCO in a gas chamber during a Graf rotation. After the ceremony, we both removed our mask to show the effectiveness of our equipment. I would think the TAG of the TN National Guard would have bigger fish to fry.
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So Navy can do it in a pool in floating ducks, guys can do it in storm trooper gear, but this crossed the line somehow.
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Lt Col Aircraft Maintenance
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Just because somebody shows their ass doesn't mean you should also!
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

My first Troop Commander made every Lieutenant and Warrant memorize the oath. We had to do reenlistment by memory, make it professional, and retain the solemn nature of the event. I kept that up for 22 years.
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LtCol William Bentley
LtCol William Bentley
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Dang skippy! Same here, had to memorize it (both Officer and Enlisted), and therefore never needed to read off a card or give an "er..." "ummm" during an Oath. Solemn and professional, like the Founders envisioned when they put the Oath of loyalty into the Constitution...not to be made fun of or the butt of jokes.
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