Posted on Jul 1, 2020
Confederate battle flag would be banned at all DOD sites under House plan
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So here's the way I see it... If people choose to fly certain flags, stickers, political slogans and candidates, let them. Then I know a little about who or what I am dealing with. When we take away these symbols in a single broad stroke, we no longer get to see who is still holding on to certain negative values (assuming that negative value is what motivates the individual).
Take Facebook and Twitter for example too. Right now they are playing thought police, which can be highly subjective and prone to catch 22 scenarios. Why not instead make a policy that they reserve the right to open up what they believe to be hate or threatening speech to the public for all to see (give them a warning of course, to allow them time to take it down or it goes public)? If someone wants to be dumb enough to use a publicly owned site, even if the posts are limited to their friends, to articulate such things, push them into the public forum and enable everyone to see their true self.
Hell, Facebook and Twitter can even tag them and what they said to be searchable too.
I just feel that banning them prevents people and the authorities from proactively identifying, reporting, and tracking them before they cross the line into actions of hate and violence. Would they possibly discontinue Facebook knowing their articulated thoughts will be publicized? Maybe but how is this different? At least by publicizing hate and violent posts we have a better chance of knowing who they are.
I get the purpose in the desire to ban the Confederate flag on DoD installations, much in the same way hate symbols via tattoos are banned. Problem is, the use of the Confederate Flag is very subjective to what it represents to some vs others and I know it's hard to let that go (I know several of those people and they are not racist people). I would personally never use it to represent pride in the distinct and prevalent southern lifestyle/attitude shared by a significant number of southerners (of all colors). To me this pride is not much different than having pride coming from the mid-west, northeast, the west. Each have subtle but distinct differences. I personally love the south and I was born there too. In my experience southerners have always been friendlier, more down to earth, less stressed, family driven, and more concerned of others. That flag does not represent such things to me as I see it as a historical representation of when our country had to look deep down within itself and began to grow up into a more tolerant and accepting society to all human beings. What annoys me today is our continued practice of rehashing and reliving the past vs learning from it and moving on.
Take Facebook and Twitter for example too. Right now they are playing thought police, which can be highly subjective and prone to catch 22 scenarios. Why not instead make a policy that they reserve the right to open up what they believe to be hate or threatening speech to the public for all to see (give them a warning of course, to allow them time to take it down or it goes public)? If someone wants to be dumb enough to use a publicly owned site, even if the posts are limited to their friends, to articulate such things, push them into the public forum and enable everyone to see their true self.
Hell, Facebook and Twitter can even tag them and what they said to be searchable too.
I just feel that banning them prevents people and the authorities from proactively identifying, reporting, and tracking them before they cross the line into actions of hate and violence. Would they possibly discontinue Facebook knowing their articulated thoughts will be publicized? Maybe but how is this different? At least by publicizing hate and violent posts we have a better chance of knowing who they are.
I get the purpose in the desire to ban the Confederate flag on DoD installations, much in the same way hate symbols via tattoos are banned. Problem is, the use of the Confederate Flag is very subjective to what it represents to some vs others and I know it's hard to let that go (I know several of those people and they are not racist people). I would personally never use it to represent pride in the distinct and prevalent southern lifestyle/attitude shared by a significant number of southerners (of all colors). To me this pride is not much different than having pride coming from the mid-west, northeast, the west. Each have subtle but distinct differences. I personally love the south and I was born there too. In my experience southerners have always been friendlier, more down to earth, less stressed, family driven, and more concerned of others. That flag does not represent such things to me as I see it as a historical representation of when our country had to look deep down within itself and began to grow up into a more tolerant and accepting society to all human beings. What annoys me today is our continued practice of rehashing and reliving the past vs learning from it and moving on.
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U.S. flag and the state in which the facility is located.....no exceptions.
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ABSOLUTELY...If it isn't the US flag or a legal state flag, then ban it...that is the only fair and right way to do it.
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