Posted on May 26, 2016
Discrepancy discovered in "American Sniper" Chris Kyle's military medals
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Here is one of the comments in the original post that i think sums it up nicely. Good guy or bad guy aside, if the media spent half the effort investigating people like the Clintons and Obama that they expend on conservatives, war heroes, and people on the right, they would all have been in jail years ago.
Discrepancy discovered in "American Sniper" Chris Kyle's military medals
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Did any of the respondents to this question read the supporting documentation for the original article in "The Intercept"? I did and I find that the information is not as compelling as some may think. I am not in the Navy or Marine Corps, but I can read the appropriate regulations and understand what the appropriate supporting documentation should be. Someone correct me if I am wrong on any of my assumptions or conclusions.
1. Isn't the OPNAV 1650/3 the Navy equivalent of the DA Form 638?
2. In the released documents where are the supporting documents?
3. Where is the NDAWS printouts for each of the items presented in the release?
4. Where are the OPNAV 1650/3's for each of the awards?
5. The presented awards citations and certificates for the Bronze Stars do not match. The citations appear to be for individual actions and the certificates appear to be for deployment periods (as for end of tour awards).
6. The Evaluation Reports appear to also have gaps, where are the reports that would have included the one known Silver Star, and the report with the first Bronze Star (the 3rd BS appears to be shown as the first in the reports but then there is a discrepancy in the dates)?
7. Where are the OPNAV 1650/3, Citations, Award Certificates, NDAWS entries, and Orders for each of the known awards?
Do I need to document the information provided to show that there are major gaps in this story all around?
I have and I find that there are a number of discrepancies to be found between the various documents presented. Just the Bronze Star alone, if you look at the dates of the evaluation reports and awards listed on them you would note that the first Bronze Star w/V is not listed, you will also find that there is a distinct discrepancy in regards to the 3rd Bronze Star w/V, with it being listed on his eval report as being awarded in the 2006-2007 time period and the citation shows that a 3rd one was awarded in 2009 for a period in 2008. This last discrepancy definitely leads me to believe that the 2009 award should have been for at least a 4th award.
My conclusion from just the information presented is as follows:
Bronze Star w/V - 1st Award 2004 - Down graded SS. Certificate/DG Memo Jun 06
Bronze Star - 1st Award 2004-2005 - Award Citation
Bronze Star w/V - 2nd Award 2005-2006 - 05-06 Eval Report
Bronze Star w/V - 3rd Award 2006-2007 - 06-07 Eval Report (Stated only as BS w/V)
Bronze Star w/V - 4th Award 2008 - 2009 Award Certificate (Shown on Certificate as 3rd Award)
To me that represents 5 Bronze Stars with 4 having the w/V device.
Considering the information provided, I believe that some individuals can not count or do a proper audit to request the appropriate information through the FOIA.
1. Isn't the OPNAV 1650/3 the Navy equivalent of the DA Form 638?
2. In the released documents where are the supporting documents?
3. Where is the NDAWS printouts for each of the items presented in the release?
4. Where are the OPNAV 1650/3's for each of the awards?
5. The presented awards citations and certificates for the Bronze Stars do not match. The citations appear to be for individual actions and the certificates appear to be for deployment periods (as for end of tour awards).
6. The Evaluation Reports appear to also have gaps, where are the reports that would have included the one known Silver Star, and the report with the first Bronze Star (the 3rd BS appears to be shown as the first in the reports but then there is a discrepancy in the dates)?
7. Where are the OPNAV 1650/3, Citations, Award Certificates, NDAWS entries, and Orders for each of the known awards?
Do I need to document the information provided to show that there are major gaps in this story all around?
I have and I find that there are a number of discrepancies to be found between the various documents presented. Just the Bronze Star alone, if you look at the dates of the evaluation reports and awards listed on them you would note that the first Bronze Star w/V is not listed, you will also find that there is a distinct discrepancy in regards to the 3rd Bronze Star w/V, with it being listed on his eval report as being awarded in the 2006-2007 time period and the citation shows that a 3rd one was awarded in 2009 for a period in 2008. This last discrepancy definitely leads me to believe that the 2009 award should have been for at least a 4th award.
My conclusion from just the information presented is as follows:
Bronze Star w/V - 1st Award 2004 - Down graded SS. Certificate/DG Memo Jun 06
Bronze Star - 1st Award 2004-2005 - Award Citation
Bronze Star w/V - 2nd Award 2005-2006 - 05-06 Eval Report
Bronze Star w/V - 3rd Award 2006-2007 - 06-07 Eval Report (Stated only as BS w/V)
Bronze Star w/V - 4th Award 2008 - 2009 Award Certificate (Shown on Certificate as 3rd Award)
To me that represents 5 Bronze Stars with 4 having the w/V device.
Considering the information provided, I believe that some individuals can not count or do a proper audit to request the appropriate information through the FOIA.
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