Posted on Sep 2, 2021
Dishonorable discharges for vaccine refusal would be blocked under congressional proposal
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Well, a silver lining as it were
Dishonorable discharges for vaccine refusal would be blocked under congressional proposal
Posted from armytimes.com
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This is a non issue. These are administrative discharges, which are almost exclusively characterized as honorable.
This is making up something to fight against, and then putting on a big show of fighting the imaginary monster.
This is making up something to fight against, and then putting on a big show of fighting the imaginary monster.
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Tilting at the windmills passing
Who can the brave young horseman be?
Who can the brave young horseman be?
SFC Michael Hasbun
SFC Thomas Foreman - So if the Congressman is Don Quixote, who is Sancho Panza? The media?
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SFC Michael Hasbun dammit man, I just wanted to post some Gordon Lightfoot lyrics to make the world a better place. I wasn’t emotionally prepared to take the analogy this far…
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From my understanding and what I have read is that dishonorable discharge is given for the most serious offenses after conviction at court martial - such as desertion, sexual assault, murder, etc. Those who would be separated for vaccine refusal I don't think ever would approach the realm of dishonorable since there's not a court martial in those instances. It sounds like they're basically administrative discharges.
The Marine discharged for refusing to wear a mask per the DoD mask mandate got a general discharge under honorable conditions. When I looked up that - it says that people with that discharge get VA benefits minus their GI Bill.
The Marine discharged for refusing to wear a mask per the DoD mask mandate got a general discharge under honorable conditions. When I looked up that - it says that people with that discharge get VA benefits minus their GI Bill.
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I mean, rules are rules and mandates are mandates for us military folk. But even I think that a DD for not wearing a mask or not getting the vaccine is definitely too strong a reaction
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
MSG (Join to see) - Yeah I didn't think anyone was going to ever get a Dishonorable since you have to get court martialed for that. Everything I read says Dishonorable is usually for the most serious offenses as mentioned.
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well chock this up to another case of our elected leaders not knowing what they are talking about.
When push comes to shove on the vaccine I am just gong to retire, rather than get it. I have about a year left, and I have been around long enough to know I have between 2 and 5 years before the Army Reserve really cracks down on this and starts putting people out.
I would rather keep to my plan of hitting mandatory retirement age, because I actually really love the Army and serving, but this is my line. I fully believe this is biblical prophecy of the mark of the beast being fullfilled.
When push comes to shove on the vaccine I am just gong to retire, rather than get it. I have about a year left, and I have been around long enough to know I have between 2 and 5 years before the Army Reserve really cracks down on this and starts putting people out.
I would rather keep to my plan of hitting mandatory retirement age, because I actually really love the Army and serving, but this is my line. I fully believe this is biblical prophecy of the mark of the beast being fullfilled.
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Such a legislative proposal is nothing but Reverse Virtue Signaling by an idiot trying to micromanage a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
I suspect that the prompt behind this nonsense comes from a hysterical piece of nonsense suggesting that there is a grand conspiracy to take guns away from conservative nutcases by somehow creating a list of everyone who isn't vaccinated, then adding the list of unvaccinated people to the TSA No Fly list, and simultaneously passing legislation adding the entire No Fly list to the NICS background check prohibited persons list so that people who aren't vaccinated would be prohibited from buying guns.
That same stupid article also pointed out that even without the No Fly List aspects, the New Woke Military could get rid of conservatives by conducting courts martial trials for anyone in the military who refused the vaccine, giving them dishonorable discharges which would prevent them from buying guns after leaving the military and would also open up lots of vacancies so the military could enlist new people whose ideas are more suited to current politically correct ways.
The entire article was complete nonsense, but it has been spread across social media as if it made sense and was actually going to happen.
Yes, there are people stupid enough to believe such trash, and apparently at least one of them is in Congress.
I suspect that the prompt behind this nonsense comes from a hysterical piece of nonsense suggesting that there is a grand conspiracy to take guns away from conservative nutcases by somehow creating a list of everyone who isn't vaccinated, then adding the list of unvaccinated people to the TSA No Fly list, and simultaneously passing legislation adding the entire No Fly list to the NICS background check prohibited persons list so that people who aren't vaccinated would be prohibited from buying guns.
That same stupid article also pointed out that even without the No Fly List aspects, the New Woke Military could get rid of conservatives by conducting courts martial trials for anyone in the military who refused the vaccine, giving them dishonorable discharges which would prevent them from buying guns after leaving the military and would also open up lots of vacancies so the military could enlist new people whose ideas are more suited to current politically correct ways.
The entire article was complete nonsense, but it has been spread across social media as if it made sense and was actually going to happen.
Yes, there are people stupid enough to believe such trash, and apparently at least one of them is in Congress.
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