Posted on Aug 23, 2019
Far-right violence is on the rise. Where is the outrage? | Owen Jones
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Mohammed Saleem was murdered by a terrorist, and yet you’ve probably never even heard of him. It was April 2013, and the 82-year-old was walking home from evening prayers at a mosque in Small Heath, Birmingham. A Ukrainian neo-Nazi terrorist – who had bombed three mosques – stabbed him three times from behind. “He was a very beautiful, educated man who empowered all of his five daughters – and his sons as well – to pursue education, and loved and appreciated everything Britain gave him,” says Maz Saleem, his daughter. “I’ve spent six years tirelessly campaigning for him to be recognised in a mainstream platform.”
Far-right violence is on the rise. Where is the outrage? | Owen Jones
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Maybe it is overshadowed by left-wing governments shooting their own citizens in the street and running them over with tanks.
Nope, no violence ever got started by Antifa.
We even call the perpatrator a neo-Nazi (he is not named, so no fact-checking is easily accomplished in this), associating him with the worst of the worst, in many peoples' eyes. Never mind that Ukraine was overrun and brutalized by the Nazis. Never mind that some Ukrainians supported the Nazis because Hitler promised them an independent state free of the Soviet Union (LOL) that Ukraine had fought just a few years before in the Russian Civil War. Never mind that Stalin - a communist - and Mao - another communist - were even worse in terms of body count than even Hitler's evil regime.
Interesting that the author selects which mass shootings matter enough to mention to fit the narrative - El Paso, Sweden, Philidelphia Synagogue, and the headliner story and then associates them with politicians he doesn't like. Yet he omits San Bernardino (committed by ISIS) or Las Vegas (targeting country music fans, a decidedly not left-wing group of people, but not monolithic) because they don't fit the narrative. Europe has had a plethora of ISIS attacks in the past several years, yet he is silent on those.
Here's a narrative for you, high-speed:
Why do you seek out equivalency between a domestic incident in 2013 with foreign incidents that have precisely zero to do with each other? New Zealand might have been the better analogy, but that wouldn't make your point the right way. Is the bad guy in your story the immigrant from Ukraine that should have had more scrutiny before allowing him entry into the UK? Are you a closet Brexit supporter?
When we try to ascribe some kind of organization to the motives of crazies or maybe even ideologically motivated killers, and try to tie them to politicians, we are on very shaky ground. If the politician him/herself claims some kind of affiliation, then they are fair game.
There are a lot of nuts out there, and some of them are armed, or making bombs, or weaponizing trucks. Rhetoric like this does not do a damn thing to cool passions and get people to talk rather than shoot one another over political differences.
Nope, no violence ever got started by Antifa.
We even call the perpatrator a neo-Nazi (he is not named, so no fact-checking is easily accomplished in this), associating him with the worst of the worst, in many peoples' eyes. Never mind that Ukraine was overrun and brutalized by the Nazis. Never mind that some Ukrainians supported the Nazis because Hitler promised them an independent state free of the Soviet Union (LOL) that Ukraine had fought just a few years before in the Russian Civil War. Never mind that Stalin - a communist - and Mao - another communist - were even worse in terms of body count than even Hitler's evil regime.
Interesting that the author selects which mass shootings matter enough to mention to fit the narrative - El Paso, Sweden, Philidelphia Synagogue, and the headliner story and then associates them with politicians he doesn't like. Yet he omits San Bernardino (committed by ISIS) or Las Vegas (targeting country music fans, a decidedly not left-wing group of people, but not monolithic) because they don't fit the narrative. Europe has had a plethora of ISIS attacks in the past several years, yet he is silent on those.
Here's a narrative for you, high-speed:
Why do you seek out equivalency between a domestic incident in 2013 with foreign incidents that have precisely zero to do with each other? New Zealand might have been the better analogy, but that wouldn't make your point the right way. Is the bad guy in your story the immigrant from Ukraine that should have had more scrutiny before allowing him entry into the UK? Are you a closet Brexit supporter?
When we try to ascribe some kind of organization to the motives of crazies or maybe even ideologically motivated killers, and try to tie them to politicians, we are on very shaky ground. If the politician him/herself claims some kind of affiliation, then they are fair game.
There are a lot of nuts out there, and some of them are armed, or making bombs, or weaponizing trucks. Rhetoric like this does not do a damn thing to cool passions and get people to talk rather than shoot one another over political differences.
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Many, many more Muslims are killed by Islamic governments than by governments or people in Democratic Republics.
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An isolated crime in the UK from 2013. Yup, "whitey" is the cause of all violence around the world. I am sure Lee Rigby would disagree with your assessment.
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