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MSG Stan Hutchison
Maj John Bell - Yes, and the final POPULAR vote was
Trump; 62,984,828
Clinton : 65,853,514
It appears you conservatives just cannot accept that the majority of voting Americans did not vote for your Trump. I agree he won the election, but he did not win the majority of citizen's votes.
Trump; 62,984,828
Clinton : 65,853,514
It appears you conservatives just cannot accept that the majority of voting Americans did not vote for your Trump. I agree he won the election, but he did not win the majority of citizen's votes.
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Maj John Bell
MSG Stan Hutchison - It appears non-conservatives cannot accept that the President is not, and never has been elected by the majority of voting Americans. He/she is elected by democratically elected electors of the electoral college. That is the way it is, was, and will be for the foreseeable future.
If you do not care for the system... please consider that the 13 colonies would most likely have gone their own way, and potentially been conquered by, or fell into the sphere of influence of one of the major European powers, having all the gravitas of Latvia, Romania, or Turkmenistan.
If you do not care for the system... please consider that the 13 colonies would most likely have gone their own way, and potentially been conquered by, or fell into the sphere of influence of one of the major European powers, having all the gravitas of Latvia, Romania, or Turkmenistan.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
PO3 Bob McCord - Bob, I never said anything about "fairness." I understand how the system works. My point was, I understand why Hillary was upset with the loss after she got 3 million more votes than Trump. Didn't say fair or unfair. Didn't say right or wrong. Just that I understood.
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The right is so afraid of her they can't get over winning the election. They think she is still a threat to what I have to figure out.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin -
Just a few sources:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/04/colin-powell-condoleezza-rice-private-email-accounts-classified-hillary-Clinton
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/colin-powell-defends-personal-email-227889
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/08/colin-powell-on-use-of-private-email-i-stand-by-my-decisions-and-i-am-fully-accountable/
Just a few sources:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/04/colin-powell-condoleezza-rice-private-email-accounts-classified-hillary-Clinton
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/colin-powell-defends-personal-email-227889
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/08/colin-powell-on-use-of-private-email-i-stand-by-my-decisions-and-i-am-fully-accountable/
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
MSG Stan Hutchison allow me to point out the difference from the URLs you posted alone
What Clinton did: Ordered PRIVATE SERVERS installed in her PRIVATE residence for the purpose of conducting ALL her official business. This is not legal.
1st URL: “private email account” NOT illegal and virtually everyone in the US Gov has used private accounts for such things, especially as you go back in years as government capabilities matured. This is not the same as what Clinton did above.
2nd URL - “personal email” i.e. he used a personal account for some official business. Not the same.
3rd URL - “private email” not private email server which he had installed. See the above.
If you’re going to use the Powell example, I suggest you look at all of what he said too.
““It is no secret that I used a [sic] unclassified personal email account in addition to my classified State computer,’” Powell wrote to the New York Times’s Amy Chozick. He implored the dozens of reporters and producers who emailed him to read his book, “It Worked for Me: In Life and Leadership,” in which he devoted an entire chapter to his efforts to revamp the State Department’s IT system.
The Clinton campaign’s effort to blur the lines between Clinton’s private email server and Powell’s AOL account left Powell deeply frustrated.
“They are going to dick up the legitimate and necessary use of emails with friggin record rules. I saw email more like a telephone than a cable machine,” Powell wrote last year to his business partner Jeffrey Leeds. “As long as the stuff is unclassified. I had a secure State.gov machine. Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.””
Once again, what Clinton did was completely different from what others have done. Also when I asked you to cite examples, I was referring to YOUR stated experiences where people mishandled classified information in a worse manner and weren’t prosecuted. Which ones involved a head of a gov agency installing private servers for the purpose of conducting 100% government business and in turn enabled classified information to traverse those servers. Clinton broke the rules/laws on records management, safeguarding classified information, information security, NIST standards in protecting government systems, and non-compliance with the Clinger-Cohen act.
What Clinton did: Ordered PRIVATE SERVERS installed in her PRIVATE residence for the purpose of conducting ALL her official business. This is not legal.
1st URL: “private email account” NOT illegal and virtually everyone in the US Gov has used private accounts for such things, especially as you go back in years as government capabilities matured. This is not the same as what Clinton did above.
2nd URL - “personal email” i.e. he used a personal account for some official business. Not the same.
3rd URL - “private email” not private email server which he had installed. See the above.
If you’re going to use the Powell example, I suggest you look at all of what he said too.
““It is no secret that I used a [sic] unclassified personal email account in addition to my classified State computer,’” Powell wrote to the New York Times’s Amy Chozick. He implored the dozens of reporters and producers who emailed him to read his book, “It Worked for Me: In Life and Leadership,” in which he devoted an entire chapter to his efforts to revamp the State Department’s IT system.
The Clinton campaign’s effort to blur the lines between Clinton’s private email server and Powell’s AOL account left Powell deeply frustrated.
“They are going to dick up the legitimate and necessary use of emails with friggin record rules. I saw email more like a telephone than a cable machine,” Powell wrote last year to his business partner Jeffrey Leeds. “As long as the stuff is unclassified. I had a secure State.gov machine. Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.””
Once again, what Clinton did was completely different from what others have done. Also when I asked you to cite examples, I was referring to YOUR stated experiences where people mishandled classified information in a worse manner and weren’t prosecuted. Which ones involved a head of a gov agency installing private servers for the purpose of conducting 100% government business and in turn enabled classified information to traverse those servers. Clinton broke the rules/laws on records management, safeguarding classified information, information security, NIST standards in protecting government systems, and non-compliance with the Clinger-Cohen act.
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