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SGT Philip Roncari
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CW3 Dylan E.Raymond,PHR -Great post,having recently retired from the utility industry as a welder I can certainly say the skilled trades are a great path to a well paid job with many benefits not found in the traditional college trained job seeker who upon graduation must be prepared to constantly adapt to changing job requirements,layoffs,downsizing ect there is a very definite shortage in the trades maybe because young people don't want to get their hands dirty,but the money is clean!
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CPT John Sheridan
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I used to work for a very large manufacturing conglomerate. There were two types are of employees that typically had high pay combined with long tenure: engineers and skilled trades. Four year college isn't for everyone and engineering degrees are particularly challenging to pursue.
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
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CPT John Sheridan - The process technology is golden because it's not just for the petro chemical industry
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CPT John Sheridan
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR - I'm actually a process engineer. I specialize in biological processes, wastewater treatment. About 15 years ago, I used to do a lot of petrochemical work. Chevron Oronite in Belle Chase, LA; Exxon Mobil Torrance, CA; Newpark Shipbuilding, Houston; HOVENSA, St Croix, VI; Shell Refinery in Stanlow, UK...

Now I focus on municipal plants.
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LT Charles Baird
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Sad thing is that the military years ago began civilianizing the skilled trades internally taking the jobs away from the enlisted - this as well as main stream colleges fighting to do away with trade schools because they wanted the money the trade schools were getting has caused the diminishment of skilled labor.

Maybe the military should consider getting rid of the civilian contractors and go back to training new enlisted in these skills; then after a four year contract some will get out and fill the gap.
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
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LT Charles Baird - It all about the mighty dollar why do we need state drivers license the fee you pay to renew goes to that state why do a servicemembers that drove in combat have to come out and get a state license
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I have to disagree here civilian contractors are necessary. If we got rid of civilians we would have to hire tons of service members to fill those spots. That would also lead to a huge unemployment percent.
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LT Charles Baird
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Understood - but if you did a one for one swap military for civilian then your unemployment would remain the same thus eliminating your huge unemployment percent you speak of.

But the big thing is that the skilled trades are undermanned so those that are moved from the military civilian jobs can fill other positions outside of being a military civilian while the younger generations get a chance at learning a skilled trade they can use after their tour in the military. The gap in the skilled trades is because there are not enough training opportunities in the civilian sector; where the military would be able to fill this gap plus give a young troop the opportunity to get at least 4 years of experience in the field making them viable for the civilian sector to fill the gaps upon end of enlistment.
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR - As you travel about, what is your impression of JBLM in comparison to the "territorial" generality and Robin Baker in particular? (Next time you are in the Northwest let me know, I'd like to take you to lunch.)
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CPT John Sheridan
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Nice article. I am a big fan of trade school and apprenticeships. Looking at Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics data, there are a number of skilled occupations that command high wages and low unemployment. The ones that seem the best are those that fit into both construction and manufacturing, like welders, millwrights, etc. Many of those skills are non-fungible. The related job cannot be sent overseas. Construction happens where it happens.
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