Posted on May 3, 2016
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People seek to change or re-write history by destroying things of the past only serve to highlight them and make themselves look like fools.
Judge blocks Louisville from moving 120-year-old Confederate monument | Fox News
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There's a big difference between rewriting history and refusing to honor those who fought to maintain the right for one color of humans to own another. Removing confedrate symbols is no different than not having Nazi monuments in Germany. Sure, many of those Nazi soldiers fought bravely and with honor; but you don't honor them and their cause, which was pure evil. And no one flies the Nazi flag on government buildings, just because it was "part of German history". There are parts of history that do not deserve to be honored.
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PO2 Mark Saffell
LTC (Join to see) Although I agree with some of what you say I have to say no to it also. If we do it for this one where does it stop? Do we destroy Stone Mountain in GA? Do we remove people from Mt. Rushmore because they owned slaves? Do we destroy what has been done down the road from Mt. Rushmore with the Indian that killed many white people? My family roots take me back to chiefs of the Cherokee Nation. Do we destroy anything dealing with the Pilgrims because they stole this land from my family and enslaved or murdered them in the process?
Im afraid if you try to destroy Stone Mountain or Mt. Rushmore you will run into some nasty fights.
Im afraid if you try to destroy Stone Mountain or Mt. Rushmore you will run into some nasty fights.
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MSgt Michael Bischoff
PO2 Mark Saffell - the problem is a lot of people use the confederate symbols and monument as a rallying point for their bigotry. I see no one standing at Mount Rushmore want to push a cause of discrimination.
Stone mountain was carved for one thing to celebrate the Confederacy and those in charge. The Daughters of the Confederacy brought up the idea. It is not a national monument, it is a state monument.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Daughters_of_the_Confederacy#/media/File%3AChildren_of_the_Confederacy_Creed_Plaque_at_TX_Capitol.jpg
States rights. This is why Texas is in forefront of rewriting history calling slaves "workers"
Stone mountain was carved for one thing to celebrate the Confederacy and those in charge. The Daughters of the Confederacy brought up the idea. It is not a national monument, it is a state monument.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Daughters_of_the_Confederacy#/media/File%3AChildren_of_the_Confederacy_Creed_Plaque_at_TX_Capitol.jpg
States rights. This is why Texas is in forefront of rewriting history calling slaves "workers"
United Daughters of the Confederacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The United Daughters of the Confederacy, Inc., founded in 1894, is an association of female descendants of Confederate veterans. Its role in the first half of the 20th century was to preserve and uphold the memory of the Confederate veterans, especially those husbands, sons, fathers and brothers who died in the war. Their long-term impact was to promote the Lost Cause image of the antebellum plantation South as an idealized society crushed by...
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PO2 Mark Saffell
MSgt Michael Bischoff And my point is where does it stop? And just to correct. People did talk about removing Stone Mountain but that was shut down quickly.
In 2015, Stone Mountain was the subject of a political debate related to the removal of symbols of the Confederacy.[13] This controversy was stimulated by a movement in other states to remove the Confederate Battle flag from public areas. A proposal was made to remove the Confederate Battle flag, but according to Georgia Law, no one is allowed to touch the Confederate figures carved upon the stone face.[14][irrelevant citation] Any changes in the state park would require approval by the state legislature. The change would be seen as destruction of art history due to the beginning of the carving by Gutzon Borglum, who later went on to begin Mount Rushmore.[15] On October 11, 2015, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported the park has denied the proposal of a permanent "Freedom Bell" honoring Martin Luther King, Jr. and the line "Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia" as part of King's I Have A Dream speech of 1963.[16] The proposed monument was inspired by a bell ringing ceremony held in 2013 honoring the 50th anniversary of King's speech.
Been there many times. I'm from Missouri so we kind of hugged the line during the war. I don't consider myself as a southerner even though most of my family comes from TN, However I would be right on the line fighting anyone that wanted to do damage to this.
In 2015, Stone Mountain was the subject of a political debate related to the removal of symbols of the Confederacy.[13] This controversy was stimulated by a movement in other states to remove the Confederate Battle flag from public areas. A proposal was made to remove the Confederate Battle flag, but according to Georgia Law, no one is allowed to touch the Confederate figures carved upon the stone face.[14][irrelevant citation] Any changes in the state park would require approval by the state legislature. The change would be seen as destruction of art history due to the beginning of the carving by Gutzon Borglum, who later went on to begin Mount Rushmore.[15] On October 11, 2015, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported the park has denied the proposal of a permanent "Freedom Bell" honoring Martin Luther King, Jr. and the line "Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia" as part of King's I Have A Dream speech of 1963.[16] The proposed monument was inspired by a bell ringing ceremony held in 2013 honoring the 50th anniversary of King's speech.
Been there many times. I'm from Missouri so we kind of hugged the line during the war. I don't consider myself as a southerner even though most of my family comes from TN, However I would be right on the line fighting anyone that wanted to do damage to this.
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MSgt Michael Bischoff
PO2 Mark Saffell - I personally don't have a problem with some of the monuments it is America after all. But when it is the rallying cry and symbol for bigots I do object.
These bigots tried to use Stone Mountain as a symbol but failed excepted over 900 but got a couple dozen.
If you read the plaque put up in 1959 you understand where people get he ideas of other rewriting history comes from, to make themselves the martyrs for a cause long lost.
These bigots tried to use Stone Mountain as a symbol but failed excepted over 900 but got a couple dozen.
If you read the plaque put up in 1959 you understand where people get he ideas of other rewriting history comes from, to make themselves the martyrs for a cause long lost.
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