Posted on Jul 28, 2021
Judge Orders Jail for Ex-Cop Charged in U.S. Capitol Breach After Feds Find Guns and 'Pipe Bomb'...
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Surprise, surprise.
"Defendant Thomas Robertson faces charges for his participation in the riot at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021. After his arrest, Mr. Robertson was granted pretrial release with several conditions, including that he must obey all federal, state, and local laws and that he must refrain from possessing firearms. The government now submits that Robertson has violated these conditions by possessing several firearms and by ordering numerous others to be shipped to a nearby gun dealer and picked up later. The government therefore moves to detain Robertson pending trial. The Court will grant the motion.
As explained below, there is probable cause to believe that Robertson committed a felony—willfully shipping or transporting firearms and ammunition despite being under felony indictment—while on pretrial release. Under the applicable statute, this finding gives rise to a rebuttable presumption that Robertson cannot be safely released into the community pending trial under any conditions. Robertson has not rebutted this presumption."
"Defendant Thomas Robertson faces charges for his participation in the riot at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021. After his arrest, Mr. Robertson was granted pretrial release with several conditions, including that he must obey all federal, state, and local laws and that he must refrain from possessing firearms. The government now submits that Robertson has violated these conditions by possessing several firearms and by ordering numerous others to be shipped to a nearby gun dealer and picked up later. The government therefore moves to detain Robertson pending trial. The Court will grant the motion.
As explained below, there is probable cause to believe that Robertson committed a felony—willfully shipping or transporting firearms and ammunition despite being under felony indictment—while on pretrial release. Under the applicable statute, this finding gives rise to a rebuttable presumption that Robertson cannot be safely released into the community pending trial under any conditions. Robertson has not rebutted this presumption."
Judge Orders Jail for Ex-Cop Charged in U.S. Capitol Breach After Feds Find Guns and 'Pipe Bomb'...
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So much to unpack in this article. To choose one: the prosecutors flagged a "rant " (quotes mine). If that constitutes a "rant", those prosecutors would have a field day scanning this forum.
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SPC Kevin Ford
CWO4 Terrence Clark Eh, I don't see a ton of people of any political stripe on RP calling for violence. A heck of a lot of "spirited' discussion though! :)
But seriously, I suspect that Facebook post alone would have been ignored if it wasn't combined with the purchase and possession of weapons in violation of the conditions of his parole.
But seriously, I suspect that Facebook post alone would have been ignored if it wasn't combined with the purchase and possession of weapons in violation of the conditions of his parole.
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I must be missing something in this story. Did he attempt to purchase firearms AFTER his conditional release? If so that was a bone headed move.
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Did he ship his firearms as a way to avoid being caught in a constructive possession charge? If his shipment wasn't intercepted, then he would have been clear of the legal hazard of possession.
It still makes no sense to me. Just hand your guns and kit over to a person you trust while the smoke settles. Am I the only person that understands this is the calculus we are dealing with?
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Did he ship his firearms as a way to avoid being caught in a constructive possession charge? If his shipment wasn't intercepted, then he would have been clear of the legal hazard of possession.
It still makes no sense to me. Just hand your guns and kit over to a person you trust while the smoke settles. Am I the only person that understands this is the calculus we are dealing with?
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From the article, "For example, a government inventory of the guns shows that many of them are recent vintage military-style assault weapons,”
I don't even know what this means! If they were WWII era weapons how are the "recent vintage" and how are they assault weapons? Unless he has a Class III license the only WWII era weapons he could hope to purchase would be the M-1 Garand, the M-1 Carbine or similar rifles. A Thompson .45 submachine gun or the M-3 grease gun perhaps? But these would be classified as machine guns and only Class III licensees could have one.
As to the pipe bomb they found, you have to dig into another referenced article where it states, "Robertson’s lawyer Mark Rollins argued that authorities glossed over important context—namely, that the materials were found in a box labeled “ALERRT kit, props, and booby trap sims.”
Short for “Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training,” ALERRT was developed by Texas State University and was subsequently named by the FBI as a standard in active shooter response training. The FBI’s website discusses the program in greater detail."
So the pipe bomb was a prop used for training LE on First Person shooting scenarios.
The reporting these days is really starting to go down hill.
I don't even know what this means! If they were WWII era weapons how are the "recent vintage" and how are they assault weapons? Unless he has a Class III license the only WWII era weapons he could hope to purchase would be the M-1 Garand, the M-1 Carbine or similar rifles. A Thompson .45 submachine gun or the M-3 grease gun perhaps? But these would be classified as machine guns and only Class III licensees could have one.
As to the pipe bomb they found, you have to dig into another referenced article where it states, "Robertson’s lawyer Mark Rollins argued that authorities glossed over important context—namely, that the materials were found in a box labeled “ALERRT kit, props, and booby trap sims.”
Short for “Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training,” ALERRT was developed by Texas State University and was subsequently named by the FBI as a standard in active shooter response training. The FBI’s website discusses the program in greater detail."
So the pipe bomb was a prop used for training LE on First Person shooting scenarios.
The reporting these days is really starting to go down hill.
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SPC Kevin Ford
Col Jim Harmon Yes, I suspect people familiar with such a thing would recognize the ALERRT kit for what it was. Having said that, the condition of his release was that he not possesses firearms, a condition he clearly violated.
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There you go people. Please observe how fast a person kind find themselves disarmed.
My first thought about the firearms issues is : registration leads to confiscation.
And why did this guy ship anything anywhere. Didn't he have any friends he could have handed off his gear to? No constructive possession there.
As to if this guy is guilty of a crime related to his duty has a Cop, we don't know.
I hope he gets his guns back. The rest of the story is inflation.
My first thought about the firearms issues is : registration leads to confiscation.
And why did this guy ship anything anywhere. Didn't he have any friends he could have handed off his gear to? No constructive possession there.
As to if this guy is guilty of a crime related to his duty has a Cop, we don't know.
I hope he gets his guns back. The rest of the story is inflation.
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