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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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This only works if you send them in AFTER the violence has been dealt with
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SPC Kevin Ford
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Absolutely, luckily most calls are not violent to start with.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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SPC Kevin Ford - Oh I would like to see that statistic, that most domestic disturbance calls to the police are not violent. Also, no matter how you spin it, defunding the police is removing funding from the Police department that goes for Police operations. In most cities, Police Operations are already bare bones to save on costs for other social programs. Cutting the funding more from from the Police instead of obtaining the funding from the Social program side is highly irresponsible and reckless.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SPC Erich Guenther - What does the one specific type of call, domestic disturbance call, have with anything said before on this thread which was about general calls? It seems like you are trying to move the goal posts to be something that wasn't said before between Lt Col Charlie Brown's comment or my response.

As far as that statistic, easy enough to find based on how many interactions between the police and the public lead to arrest and what those calls were about.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp15.pdf

And yes, we are talking about spending less money on police asking them to handle situations they are not equipped to handle and instead spend that money on resources that are more able to handle the problem. This should be common sense for us, we don't send in the military to do diplomacy.
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Wayne Soares
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Thanks for the share brother Kevin
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SSG Environmental Specialist
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Well first, I know this town, 10,000 makes it small enough, the area, has a low crime rate to begin with, doesn't hurt to have a social worker on staff, but not sure that alone is going to help say Chicago or some large city with extremely high violent crime rates.
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SPC Kevin Ford
SPC Kevin Ford
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SSG (Join to see) The plan isn't social workers alone. It's just, once safe, they would handle the situations that the police don't have the time or training to deal with. One of the things this stops is the police from having to come back to the same location over and over again like for shouting matches between spouses.

It seems that would work, regardless of the size of the city. There are certainly lots of interactions that social workers are not equipped for, and interactions that police are not really equipped for either.
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SPC Kevin Ford - Maybe, but some of the problems of some of these large city's with high crime rate is they settle their arguments with guns and violence, to be honest police, social workers etc are not going to solve this problem, it will take a major societal change starting at a young age.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SSG (Join to see) - Sure, but it's not like "normal" people with "normal" problems don't live in Chicago. They do. Everyone in Chicago isn't some gun wielding gang banger.

But Chicago's base problem is income inequality and poverty. Police nor social workers can solve those.
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