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SGT James Elphick
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Wow, this isn't hazing, it's down right abuse.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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My thoughts exactly.
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CPO Bill Penrod
CPO Bill Penrod
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That is reason our traditions are being watered down or completely abolished. Hope that Marine gets lots of hard time so he will learn what hazing is in Leavenworth.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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This is written from the prosecution point of view. Some of this appears to be over the top and some it isn't clear what actually happened (endangering Marines at a shooting range and leaving posts before properly relieved etc.)

Some sounds like piling on too. Having someone cut the grass with scissors in MOPP gear or running "excessive" distances with heavy gear (we did that all the time) or too many "buddy rushes" or shaving each other in front of the platoon etc. are not a big deal. Corrective action is sometimes required. It is also unlikely any of this was not observed by other SNCO's and perhaps junior Officers. Is saw none named in the article.

If he had (and this is a big IF) people doing physical harm to each other then he went too far. I suspect we will see a PTSD defense from his time in Iraq and or Afghanistan and they will demonstrate how he was untreated or undiagnosed and this will quietly go away.

I do like how they said he "racked up a slew of honors" and then remarked on his two good conduct medals and a humanitarian medal. Makes you wonder the level of qualification of the author of the story.
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I concur, Corporal. The phrase "racked up a slew of honors" isn't exactly the hallmark of professional reporting.
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PO1 John Miller
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If these allegations turn out to be true, what a piece of work! I know the Marines have a tendency/history to not question orders, always obey orders, etc., but come on! Ordering subordinates to fight each other, throw rocks at each other, harm themselves? That's not hazing, that's abuse, cruel and unusual punishment, you name it.

Again, if true, he deserves to go to prison.
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