Methodist conservatives to launch breakaway group in May

SPC Zach Lockhart - LOL "reforming back to what's biblical." Sure...if you say so...

Also a new denomination is literally someone creating a new form of a religion.

That's so sad if that's true that evangelicalism is on the rise in South America, Africa or Asia. Those people don't deserve that.

"Talk to any senior intelligence officer and they'll tell you our great grandchildren will be all speaking Chinese in 100 years." LOL who the fuck have you been talking to in the IC who is a "senior intel officer" who told you that? Omfg.

SPC Zach Lockhart - You realize evangelicalism in those countries isn't the same as evangelicalism in the US right?

I did a quick search:

"But a global tradition of left-leaning evangelicalism has the potential to reshape the U.S. political landscape. If we shift our gaze from the U.S. political right, we can see an alternative tradition of evangelicalism that embraces social, economic, environmental and racial justice. As Christianity continues to grow and flourish across Africa, Asia and Latin America, understanding the diversity of the faith provides a window into a potential future of American evangelicalism."

"The 20th century witnessed a tectonic shift in Christianity’s demographic center: In 1900, nearly two-thirds of Christians lived in Europe; today less than a quarter do. Yet as Christians have become less white, white American evangelicals representing the most conservative segment of the religion played an increasingly outsize role around the world even as their slice of the demographic pie diminished. In 1974, the American Baptist preacher Billy Graham summoned leaders to accelerate the evangelization of the world. In response, he nearly witnessed an evangelical civil war."

"That year, evangelical leaders huddled in Lausanne, Switzerland, in a highly influential and world-changing meeting. Nearly 2,500 Protestant evangelical leaders from over 150 countries and 135 denominations gathered, funded primarily by the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. Time magazine called it “a formidable forum, possibly the widest-ranging meeting of Christians ever held.”

Included in the diverse group were representatives of an emerging evangelical left, whose presence thrust the worldwide fellowship into conflict. As American leaders mapped strategies to spread their message on “mission fields” around the world, leaders from global south countries also demanded a seat at the table, bringing with them contexts of poverty, inequality and concern about widespread injustice.

At Lausanne, one plenary speech fueled a fiery protest, providing inspiration and an intellectual framework for the future of the global evangelical left. Ecuadoran evangelical René Padilla rebuked U.S. missionaries for exporting a deadly cocktail of capitalist rhetoric and evangelical salvation. He also rejected their brand of the “American Way of Life” and called on his audience to instead embrace a gospel for the poor, in what he called “misión integral,” a belief that social action and evangelism are essential and indivisible components of Christian mission."

"On this global stage, the Latin American evangelical left, through the speeches of Padilla and others, sought to strip evangelicalism of its white, middle-class U.S. packaging and political conservatism. Padilla himself recalled seeing the body language of some North American leaders as he gave his speech — arms crossed, frowning faces. “They felt attacked,” he said. In sharp contrast, many “Third World” and progressive American leaders embraced the message, identifying with its content. Lausanne shined a spotlight, exposing fractures and fissures across this eclectic religious coalition."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/08/30/globally-many-evangelicals-lean-left-what-that-means-americas-future/

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff I’m gonna tackle these one at a time:

1. Reforming is the proper term. We literally had a “Reformation” in the early modern period. All that happened was the reaffirmation of early church doctrine. Nothing new has been proposed within Christian orthodoxy since the 4th century AD.

2. On that point, “new denominations” generally refer back to these old doctrines. Most English confessional churches use one of the standards written in the 1600’s.

3. I live next to Langley AFB which has a significant intelligence community. I personally know E-3s to O-6s in that community. No one has ever said anything unprofessional but they do make their opinions known. You have to believe they’re swayed by work. And by all means, China is the big fish that we need to fry.

4. I have been to those countries. I have been to Asia and Latin America and I have had two seminary professors who are missionaries in Africa (Zambia and Kenya). I have serval friends scattered around Asia, one very close one in Peru, and I am part of several missionary networks that receive frequent updates from around the globe. I have also been to the International Mission Board annual meeting which has nearly 4,000 missionaries reporting from around the world. Moreover, I have graduate and postgraduate education in the field of ministry for the purpose of missions. I promise you, evangelicalism is the same, if not stronger, around the globe as it is in the States. If you want tangible sources I don’t know where to begin: IMB, NAMB, HeartCry, ABWE, Operation World, World Vision, Voice of the Martyrs, Asia’s Hope, Jews for Jesus, Global Catalytic, Golden Shores—it goes on and on. Read from those publications. Your quick Google search was one small biased sampling. Commit to studying missiology for years and you’ll find a different answer.

I don't really give two shits about you trying to explain anything. Religion is a waste of time - and denominations happen because there are people who don't like the way a religion is being preached so they split and form a new religion. Every religion has denominations. Every single one.

Don't bother to respond. I don't need to waste anymore time on you and the rest of the ignorance on this forum.