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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
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Great read. Just don't get it in you head that everybody has natural immunity. The people who died during the Black Death would not beleive a word of it. And Trumpkins don't do science.
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1SG Signal Support Systems Specialist
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This is scientific stuff my man. The folks you are trying to get through to prefer pseudoscience and conspiracy theories.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/science-based-medicine/
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SFC Senior Civil Engineer/Annuitant
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I was looking forward to reading a good article with honest pros and cons of the COVID-19 vaccine and the immunity one gets from recovering from the virus. I am very disappointed in what you say is a good in-depth article on the subject. What I read is a bashing of anyone who has honest questions of how one or the other may affect their health. LTC Kevin Broom, PhD should be removing the COVID 19 tag for this post because it truly is political in my opinion.

PS: Current Pfizer and Moderna vaccinees need to be stored at -15 degrees C to -80 degrees C; if I make my calculations right that’s -507 degrees Fahrenheit to -2,704 degrees Fahrenheit; I’m sorry but there’s nothing natural about that.
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SFC (Join to see) - No problem. I know that these things can get heated. I try and not get into that but sometimes my actions do not match my ideals for my behavior in a discussion.

I had checked and the particular guy who wrote this article has a long history in debunking anti-vaccine conspiracies. For the majority of the population (myself included) I haven't paid much attention to the anti-vaccine crowd and the arguments for and against. For this guy, it seems that squashing misconceptions that comes from this group has been a long time battle.

So for those of us hearing many of the debates around this vaccine, it all seems like shiny and new arguments (they do to me anyway). What it sounds like this guy is experiencing is all the same arguments (that people like me never paid attention to) just bubbling back up, and I suspect some frustration is coming through.
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SPC Kevin Ford - There is a lot of frustration on all sides of this issue and it’s appearing to get worse. We can’t have an administration that keeps changing the goal posts for what they want to do. Even non-professional peoepl see this happen and then question the people making the decisions. Dr. Fauci has done a disservice to our Country, he changed his professional opinions based on how he believed people would react. To me that is not professional. He should be held accountable by whatever board(s) issued any licenses that is required for his position.

Everything can be fixed. President Biden needs to get professionals into the correct positions that can get the job done. We are paying them good money. They work for us all.
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SPC Kevin Ford
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SFC (Join to see) - Personally I think we were doomed as soon as the discussions around the disease got political. I've seen people dig their feet in on things we just don't know.

For example, was the disease from the market or from the lab? We just don't know but I've sure seen people dig their feet in on both answers to that question, primarily along political lines. This happens mostly (as far as I can tell) because their political leadership and news sources tell them one or the other and everyone just locks in behind those answers. I kind of look at that and go, but we just don't know... As far as I can tell there is no conclusive evidence either way.
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SPC Kevin Ford - The disinformation our Administrations have put out on this Virus is astounding. From the days of early AIDS investigation in the 80’s, to HHV-6 around 2010, to the COVID-19 Virus of today Fauci has been the useful bureaucrat who was/is willing to chop off anyone at the knees who goes against the political elite of our Country. If you haven’t read it, I recommend Plague by Mikovits. There is some eye opening stuff in it. The plain facts are China suspended in-country flights while allowing their peoepl to disperse across the world, they did not stop international flights when the virus was found. What does this fact tell us? Several things, I will leave it to your imagination. The interesting actions although is how the Democrats and media in general condemned anyone suggesting China may be the culprit. This show deception by none other that our most cherished Dr. Fauci. Then people wonder why people don’t trust the Administration. No one ever will while trust while Dr. Fauci is involved, the internet has exposed him for what he is; the authorities should have a long time ago.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fauci-s-emails-don-t-prove-wuhan-conspiracy-raise-further-n1269650
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