Posted on Apr 12, 2023
Next Army base gets new name honoring Vietnam war pilot who medevac’d thousands of troops
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Lt Col Charlie Brown Nice that they are naming the base after a MOH winner but also ridiculous and a waste of money at the same time. You can't erase history by renaming bases.
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COL John McClellan
Nobody's erasing history. The history remains. You can read about it. But who we choose to honor publicly, and why; and for how long, is up to us. All of us.
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Although I don't consider myself a scholar or expert on our history, there are some facts that our snowflakes congress and bureaucrats have chosen to ignore in this whole expensive exercise. One camp willed treatment of the south as former enemies who should be treated as such to preclude a repeat of the insurrection; the other camp recognized that the south had been an integral part of the USA and had to be treated in a manner that recognized that history and allowed for reintegration of those states and people as a contributing part of the union. Both attitudes continued well into the 20th century.
Since establishment of a base is always controversial and involves the taking of property, a concession was made in policy to name facilities in a manner that reflected local traditions and attitudes. The names selected also reinforced the fact that "our" forces were being stationed there rather than an "occupying" force designed to insure the future of the union; thus names of local warriors of note vs confining names to those of "conquering" heroes.
Now we spend fortunes to salve the feelings of those who have elected to assume a proprietary interest in events that happened generations ago that most of us have moved on from.
Since establishment of a base is always controversial and involves the taking of property, a concession was made in policy to name facilities in a manner that reflected local traditions and attitudes. The names selected also reinforced the fact that "our" forces were being stationed there rather than an "occupying" force designed to insure the future of the union; thus names of local warriors of note vs confining names to those of "conquering" heroes.
Now we spend fortunes to salve the feelings of those who have elected to assume a proprietary interest in events that happened generations ago that most of us have moved on from.
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COL John McClellan
Glad to hear you have moved on. The reasons for the naming's of bases back in the late 19th and early 20th century are also in the past. This is moving on as well, to another generation of more recent warriors, and in this case - a career aviator. Who exactly is the snowflake here? The Chief?? He was awarded the Medal of Honor for Valor. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?? He's been to war multiple times. The Army Chief of Staff? Same. I don't see anyone melting here at all.
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LtCol Robert Quinter
COL John McClellan - The snowflakes are those who feel nothing that doesn't fit their personal views is improper, and those who accommodate them. Being in a war several times only proves an extended desire to serve. The Chief of Staff and Chairman's fitness for their positions is still suspect in my mind. If the military decisions made to date during this administration were over their objections, they should have resigned, otherwise they have demonstrated their incompetence and lack of integrity. Renaming the bases is a waste of money and effort that is the current generation saying those leaders in the past were as incompetent as those in charge now have demonstrated.
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Sgt Bob Leonard
LtCol Robert Quinter - You said, “... snowflakes are those who feel nothing that doesn't fit their personal views is improper...”
I can’t help but wonder, sir. Does that apply to everyone equally, or only to those whose opinions don’t fit your personal views?
I can’t help but wonder, sir. Does that apply to everyone equally, or only to those whose opinions don’t fit your personal views?
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LtCol Robert Quinter
Sgt Bob Leonard - First, I erred in my statement, I meant to say “... snowflakes are those who feel nothing that doesn't fit their personal views is proper...”.
To address your question, I like to think I've gained the ability that peoples' opinions are the result of their life experiences and circumstances and I can respect those opinions on that basis, not always agree, but respect.
On the other hand, most snowflake opinions I've been exposed to are based upon a privileged life, few hardships and a questionable sense of reality.
To address your question, I like to think I've gained the ability that peoples' opinions are the result of their life experiences and circumstances and I can respect those opinions on that basis, not always agree, but respect.
On the other hand, most snowflake opinions I've been exposed to are based upon a privileged life, few hardships and a questionable sense of reality.
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