Posted on Jun 25, 2016
Petition: EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum
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There they go again
Petition: EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum
Posted from petition.parliament.uk
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So if the government doesn't get what they want they'll just keep making people vote over and over until they do. Cute.
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CPT (Join to see)
Exactly what I was thinking. But it would be easier just to do what some state governments have done in the U.S. Put an issue up for popular referendum, and then when the people don't vote the way they were expected to, go to court and have a federal judge overrule the people's will (even when the courts had already decided that the issue was one which could be put up for a vote). It works like a charm over here.
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CPT John Sheridan
I think that there will be more to the story. The referendum was non-binding, so Parliment must approve it. It appears that the split in popular vote is closely mirrored in the parliamentary constituencies as well. The vote in Parliment will take some time. Some scenarios:
1) Parliment ignores the vote. This is unlikely.
2) Parliment goes against the vote. This is unlikely, but if the vote is put off, could become more likely as the UK enters a political crisis.
3) Parliment debates the petition and goes with a new referendum. Unlikely.
4) A no confidence motion results in a new general election which becomes almost a second referendum. I think this is not very likely either.
5) Conditions change with due to political crises in the UK putting off the vote and the topic eventually dies. Possible, but low probability.
6) UK negotiates a special status similar to Norway which leaves them in the EU Common Market and requires them to comply with extensive requirements of the EU for open market status. Essentially, they remain a partner, but lose their vote in Brussels. I think this is the most probable result.
7) UK fully withdraws. Possible, but could lead to fracturing the Kingdom.
Leaving makes Scottish independence highly probable. Northern Ireland would vote to leave, but they would have to decide between joining the Republic and becoming sovereign. There is already a political movement for London to secede from the UK. That would be awkward. There is no Constitution to prevent such a move. Leaving the EU will have the most economically dire consequences for London.
1) Parliment ignores the vote. This is unlikely.
2) Parliment goes against the vote. This is unlikely, but if the vote is put off, could become more likely as the UK enters a political crisis.
3) Parliment debates the petition and goes with a new referendum. Unlikely.
4) A no confidence motion results in a new general election which becomes almost a second referendum. I think this is not very likely either.
5) Conditions change with due to political crises in the UK putting off the vote and the topic eventually dies. Possible, but low probability.
6) UK negotiates a special status similar to Norway which leaves them in the EU Common Market and requires them to comply with extensive requirements of the EU for open market status. Essentially, they remain a partner, but lose their vote in Brussels. I think this is the most probable result.
7) UK fully withdraws. Possible, but could lead to fracturing the Kingdom.
Leaving makes Scottish independence highly probable. Northern Ireland would vote to leave, but they would have to decide between joining the Republic and becoming sovereign. There is already a political movement for London to secede from the UK. That would be awkward. There is no Constitution to prevent such a move. Leaving the EU will have the most economically dire consequences for London.
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Sgt Tom Cunnally
Waiting for 2 days for a debate date ..I find this fascinating
hope the Brits debate is covered by C-Span...I'll be glued to my TV watching it..
hope the Brits debate is covered by C-Span...I'll be glued to my TV watching it..
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De Montfort University activist William Oliver Healey submitted the petition on May 25 in the hope it would help the fight for a Brexit if Vote Remain won the referendum by a narrow margin, by triggering a second referendum.
But the English Democrat activist from Telford's petition drew little interest…that is until yesterday when the Brexit victory was announced, and it now appears to have backfired.
In the space of 24 hours, the right-wing activist claims it has been "hijacked" by Vote Remain campaigners, more than two million of whom have now signed it, in the hope they will now secure another in/out vote.
Since the Brexit win, Mr Healey's Parliamentary petition has quickly become the most successful in British history since they went online.
Yesterday, he posted on Facebook: "The UK People have placed a ticking time bomb under the floorboards of the EU.
"I welcome this. I do not favour a second referendum the petition that has attracted so much attention from remainers was hardly noticed until yesterday, so the remainers weren't really interested in their view or they would (have) fought harder.
"I am a strategist and one of those strategies has been wrongly hijacked by the remain campaign."
And a deleted post found by Express.co.uk, added: “It was meant as a joke but the remainers have sour grapes disease.”
Source: London Express
But the English Democrat activist from Telford's petition drew little interest…that is until yesterday when the Brexit victory was announced, and it now appears to have backfired.
In the space of 24 hours, the right-wing activist claims it has been "hijacked" by Vote Remain campaigners, more than two million of whom have now signed it, in the hope they will now secure another in/out vote.
Since the Brexit win, Mr Healey's Parliamentary petition has quickly become the most successful in British history since they went online.
Yesterday, he posted on Facebook: "The UK People have placed a ticking time bomb under the floorboards of the EU.
"I welcome this. I do not favour a second referendum the petition that has attracted so much attention from remainers was hardly noticed until yesterday, so the remainers weren't really interested in their view or they would (have) fought harder.
"I am a strategist and one of those strategies has been wrongly hijacked by the remain campaign."
And a deleted post found by Express.co.uk, added: “It was meant as a joke but the remainers have sour grapes disease.”
Source: London Express
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CPT John Sheridan
The irony is quite amusing. Boris Johnson's funeral dirge... err... I mean victory speech was awkward too. If he wins, I think he will have to take out a month-to-month lease on 10 Downing.
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