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PO3 Edward Riddle
SGM Jeff Mccloud - I watched what happened at the 1:20 mark and he came running out of the building and grabbed the ICE Officer's arm. That's the wrong thing to do.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
SGM Jeff Mccloud - So what you are trying to tell me is a person's status allows them to break the law. He did more than approach an officer, he touched one in the middle of carrying out the law. Lets just be honest here, this guy was upset ICE came to take his slave labor and like most slave holders, that is something worth fighting over. We definitely know what side you would have been on during the Civil War.
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SGM Jeff Mccloud
MAJ Byron Oyler - This is not about how you or I think someone else thinks or feels. And while I agree that $17-$19/hr in Van Nuys is pretty close to slave wages for paying rent and bills in LA County, it's above the minimum wage.
Regarding the Civil War, I definitely would have been on the side upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, just like I did for 30 years. But if we want to continue that hypothetical, I think I know what side you would have been on post-Civil War when they were passing the 14th amendment.
But this is really about multiple cops throwing a 79 yr old man to the ground and roughing him up. And not because he was throwing rocks or bottles, or "burning the city to the ground". Not even because he threw a punch. He briefly put one hand on his employee and one hand on the cop. The cop was freely walking away with the detainee, clearly unobstructed in his duties, and clearly and completely uninjured and undeterred.
And here you are, attempting to argue for what was a use of force that was clearly and objectively above and beyond reasonable under the circumstances to control a situation, make an arrest, or protect themselves or others from harm.
Exactly the same kind of violence you described here on this thread as fascism.
Which makes it sound like that for you, sometimes fascism is okay.
Regarding the Civil War, I definitely would have been on the side upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, just like I did for 30 years. But if we want to continue that hypothetical, I think I know what side you would have been on post-Civil War when they were passing the 14th amendment.
But this is really about multiple cops throwing a 79 yr old man to the ground and roughing him up. And not because he was throwing rocks or bottles, or "burning the city to the ground". Not even because he threw a punch. He briefly put one hand on his employee and one hand on the cop. The cop was freely walking away with the detainee, clearly unobstructed in his duties, and clearly and completely uninjured and undeterred.
And here you are, attempting to argue for what was a use of force that was clearly and objectively above and beyond reasonable under the circumstances to control a situation, make an arrest, or protect themselves or others from harm.
Exactly the same kind of violence you described here on this thread as fascism.
Which makes it sound like that for you, sometimes fascism is okay.
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